Programming device buttons on the 7950

Dreamzapper · Post by **Dreamzapper** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:32 pm

I probably would be satisfied if I just could program a couple of device buttons on the 7950. Is Ir.exe sufficient for that, or do I need RM? I have not been able to get RM to read .ir files, so I don't know how to proceed with that.

In IR, IK se the following macros that i would like to have under my device keys:

AV = SAT;Skip_forward. That is what I want the TV button to do instead.
-/-- = TV;FF " SAT "

I don't see how I can make any changes to the device keys in IR, so there must be something that I am missing here. I don't think I am comfortable with IR yet.

Capn Trips · Post by **Capn Trips** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:09 pm

You've been posting for a while and seem to have a pretty good grasp of a lot of what goes on here, but the questions here sound like simply a lack of having read the basic read me documents.

Even without reading the docs, however, which really focus a lot on decoding learned signals and creating an upgrade from those data, IR is a pretty intuitive program. If you have an IR file that is "mostly" set up to do what you desire, why don't you upload it to the diagnosis area, and then provide a LINK to it here, explaining what you would like to change.

As for altering a macro, in IR's Macros Tab, just double-click on the macro, and re-assign it from the AV button to the TV button, if that is what you want.

Or to create a macro from scratch, click on "Add" and the pop-up window ought to be pretty self-explanatory.

As for RM, you cannot open an IR file with RM.

RM uses RMDU file (stands for "RemoteMaster Device Upgrade"). RM is used to tailor a specific device upgrade file - either built from scratch, or modified from an existing device upgrade from the file section - to have the functions you want assigned to the buttons you want. It then generates the required hex code (on the Output Tab) for you to copy and input into IR on the Devices (and occasionally Protocols) page. RM has nothing to do with Macros.

As for how it all fits together, I recommend you read the post (and linked documents) linked in my sig at the bottom of this post. Then ask specific questions where something is unclear.

Dreamzapper · Post by **Dreamzapper** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:12 am

I've been reading and reading, but have found it difficult to create the overview needed for me to go ahead and do anything useful with it.

As for being confused, just consider

I've been working in my spare time on rolling IR function into RM. I have made some progress, but right now it is definitely only a prototype.
ture versions

What's currently working in the prototype:

* Import a .IR file (just like RM can import a KM .txt file )

That was written in Aug. 2006, so I assumed that it would work in the current version. I may have read something about IR->RM elsewhere too, that may have led me to think it should work. But never mind; it now seems that I won't have to bother with extenders.

I've studied the document "The What and Why of JP-1 and at least to me it has been quite hard to understand it all. So many new terms, so much info. A foreign language adds to the difficulty. It would have been much better if all references to extensions and extenders had been left out and collected into an appendix at the end of the document, or maybe even put in a separate document.

But thank you for your patience with me and for the information you have given. Without the kind attention to my pains you and all the other guys have paid to me I wouldn't ever have gotten anywhere.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to have a sticky thread at the top of the beginners forum, with links to downloading JP-1 For Beginners and other relevant documents? It seems to me there are some very important basic documents, both WRT hardware and software that would make a beginners entry into the world of JP-1 a little easier.

well, now I will try out what you suggested.

Rolf

Mark Pierson · Post by **Mark Pierson** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:42 am

Dreamzapper wrote:Wouldn't it be a good idea to have a sticky thread at the top of the beginners forum, with links to downloading JP-1 For Beginners and other relevant documents?

You mean like the one titled Beginners - PLEASE read this thread first.?

So much information, so little time...

Dreamzapper · Post by **Dreamzapper** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:40 am

OK, so you got me. I did download the JP1 for beginners earlier today and printed it out. So I apologize for having overlooked it. I read the thread early in this venture and was somewhat put off by the mention of it being "a little outdated" and never got back to the thread.

Outdated maybe, but nevertheless informative. Funny though, with last update 08/17/01...

Well, I put the two macros from my -/-- and AV buttons into the TV and SAT buttons. They do not work as intended.

With the remote in SAT mode, pushing the TV button selects TV mode and switches TV input from the current EXT to TV/analog. Subsequent pushes should flip back and forth between TV/analog or TV/MPEG-3, but it doesn't.

If however I select MPEG-3 with the original remote first, the next push of the TV button flips the TV to analog input. So it flips one way but not the other. The other button has no effect at all except the LED flashes.

A delay might perhaps help, but I don't know how to fix that.

Capn Trips · Post by **Capn Trips** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:39 am

Capn Trips wrote:... If you have an IR file that is "mostly" set up to do what you desire, why don't you upload it to the diagnosis area, and then provide a LINK to it here, explaining what you would like to change.

Dreamzapper · Post by **Dreamzapper** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:56 am

Sure, I will, but not not today - family first; ugh!

Dreamzapper · Post by **Dreamzapper** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:57 am

Upload and problem description at:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=5335

gtg · Post by **gtg** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:40 am

Dreamzapper wrote: Well, I put the two macros from my -/-- and AV buttons into the TV and SAT buttons. They do not work as intended.

With the remote in SAT mode, pushing the TV button selects TV mode and switches TV input from the current EXT to TV/analog. Subsequent pushes should flip back and forth between TV/analog or TV/MPEG-3, but it doesn't.

If you are using learned function for source switching, it is likely that the original remote uses a protocol with a toggle function. Try learning consecutive key presses on different keys and compare the two learned commands.

If so this will not work, you will have to use a built in device code or build an upgrade using RM so that the protocol can take care of toggling.

Dreamzapper · Post by **Dreamzapper** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:45 am

I checked for toggle but found it wasn't. I can flip with the original, flip back with the URC, and the original will flip back on the first try.

Capn Trips · Post by **Capn Trips** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:06 am

Dreamzapper · Post by **Dreamzapper** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:21 am

Problem fixed, link is ok:

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=5335

Capn Trips · Post by **Capn Trips** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:41 am

binky123 · Post by **binky123** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:02 pm

You can use Shifted buttons or phantom buttons(no physical button) to hold functions so you don't waste some functions on real buttons.

Mark Pierson · Post by **Mark Pierson** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:18 pm

Dreamzapper wrote:I am sorry but I don’t have time to find out of the error and fix the link now.

Unfortunately, I can't fix it for you either. It looks like you didn't specify the file on your local PC to be uploded since you seem to have pasted a URL instead.

When you get the chance, go to your file in the Diagnosis area and click the Edit button in the upper right corner. At the bottom of the next page is a section labeled Files. Click the Browse button and locate your file on you PC, erase the URL in the File URL edit box, and click the Edit File button.