Can't upgrade Atlas 1056 for better Pioneer DV525 DVD

Post by **The Robman** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:06 pm

I am able to open your file just fine, which tends to indicate that you either (a) haven't downloaded and unzipped the RDF distribution, or (b) you haven't told IR where to find the RDFs.

The only thing I noticed is that the IR image is smaller than we would expect for a remote with the 30333033 signature, so I'm wondering if you have a non-learning version. It could also be the fact that you don't have the RDFs online that caused IR to get a partial dump. (I don't recall how IR deals with that with flash remotes).

Either way, my recommendation is to download and unzip the RDF distribution and then point IR to the RDF folder (ie, File > Set Directory > RDF path).

csete · Post by **csete** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:41 am

Strange. I do have the RDF's downloaded and installed... at least the ones for RMIR. I noted a comment about using version 3 and 4 RDF's... are the latest RMIR RDF's incompatible? I went into the menu and pointed IR to those RDF's and received no complaints at that time or during the download.

Post by **The Robman** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:41 am

But you don't normally use IR.exe, so did you remember to set the path to the RDFs?

csete · Post by **csete** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:53 am

Yes. As I said in my response, I went to the menu and pointed IR to the RDF's. It has been a while, but I used IR in the the past to program a few other remotes. My skills are rusty (at best), but I remembered having to do that. I can try it again to see if I get different results or did something wrong.

gfb107 · Post by **gfb107** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:01 am

I haven't forgotten about this thread, I just haven't found the time. Sorry.
Maybe sometime this week.

csete · Post by **csete** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:49 am

I'm not sure what I did wrong the first time with IR and RDF's, although I have a theory I accidentally selected the parent folder rather than the actual RDF folder. Anyway..

I've updated the downloaded IR file from the remote at https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=7005 and this one is quite a bit larger... 22K. So it looks like not having the RDF directory correctly set was the issue.

What I find interesting is that the device upgrade DVD/VCR:2001 is showing *no* key mappings at all. I would have to guess that that is the issue I'm seeing. For some reason, RemoteMaster must have set this device upgrade up incorrectly? I do see both versions of the Pioneer protocol, but I assume that won't matter if the device buttons aren't mapped?

Is there a way for IR to use Remote Master for upgrades? Is that the best next step? Or do I need to go back to the Excel version for getting this to work?

gfb107 · Post by **gfb107** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:52 am

How to use RM and IR together: http://www.hifi-remote.com/jp1/help/rm.shtml

csete · Post by **csete** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:05 am

Greg,

What can I do to help with the RMIR issues? I am a Java guy, although not a detailed JP1 guy. I'd like to do whatever I can to help. I have the code loaded in Eclipse and can set breakpoints and give you information as necessary. Let me know what I can do... I really like the integration between RMIR and the device upgrades and will do what I can to help fix any issues.

Craig

gfb107 · Post by **gfb107** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:19 am

I haven't had enough time to even read this thread closely enough to understand what you are trying to do and where it's going wrong, let alone offer advice on how to proceed.

I'm really glad you are a Java guy who is interested in getting RMIR fully functional. I could really use the help.

I know its frustrating, but paid work and real life comes first.

csete · Post by **csete** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:22 am

No problem. I understand fully. Let me know when you have some time to come up for air. In the meantime, I will dig around a bit more...

Post by **The Robman** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:41 am

csete wrote:I'm not sure what I did wrong the first time with IR and RDF's, although I have a theory I accidentally selected the parent folder rather than the actual RDF folder. Anyway..

My guess is that you did a single click rather than a double click.

csete wrote:What I find interesting is that the device upgrade DVD/VCR:2001 is showing *no* key mappings at all. I would have to guess that that is the issue I'm seeing. For some reason, RemoteMaster must have set this device upgrade up incorrectly? I do see both versions of the Pioneer protocol, but I assume that won't matter if the device buttons aren't mapped?

My guess is that when you were setting up your RM file, you forgot to assign any of the functions to buttons. RM won't do that for you automatically unless you ask it to. If you still have your RM file, check to see if the functions are assigned to buttons.

csete wrote:Is there a way for IR to use Remote Master for upgrades? Is that the best next step? Or do I need to go back to the Excel version for getting this to work?

There is a link to RM in the button bar just below the menu bar. There isn't a direct link between individual upgrades and RM, like there is in RM, though.

gfb107 wrote:I haven't had enough time to even read this thread closely enough to understand what you are trying to do and where it's going wrong, let alone offer advice on how to proceed.

When we try clicking on the NEW button to add a protocol in RMIR, nothing happens. We had to switch to IR.exe in order to get the new protocol added.

gfb107 · Post by **gfb107** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:08 am

Is it a new protocol or a new variant?

In general, RMIR is device upgrade oriented. I'm not sure this works right now, but the way I would do this is to edit the device upgrade and change the protocol used there, possibly as a manual setting

csete · Post by **csete** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:14 am

RobMan can clarify, but I believe it is a variant. I'm not sure if you saw that I submitted a patch to allow protocol upgrades to be added via RemoteMaster... It is rudimentary and likely needs work. For instance, I didn't know about the KeyMap options in the text, so I didn't add any parsing code for that.

Post by **The Robman** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:35 am

He's trying to use the "Pioneer DVD" protocol. RM wants to call it $017E (in order to preserve the real $007E executor) but there is already a UEI executor called $017E in his remote, so he wasn't getting a protocol upgrade from RM, so we wanted him to manually add the protocol to make sure that his upgrade was using the right executor.

However, we later discovered that his RM upgrade doesn't have any buttons assigned, so that's at least one of the root causes of the problem.

gfb107 · Post by **gfb107** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:12 am

csete wrote:RobMan can clarify, but I believe it is a variant. I'm not sure if you saw that I submitted a patch to allow protocol upgrades to be added via RemoteMaster... It is rudimentary and likely needs work. For instance, I didn't know about the KeyMap options in the text, so I didn't add any parsing code for that.

There are no keymaps in protocol upgrade code, only in device upgrade code.