Selecting 4th device in a Dreambox V3 remote macro

G64 · Post by **G64** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:28 am

Hi everyone,

Yesterday night (3.30 AM

i finally got my Dreambox V3 remote to control (most of) my devices. It took me quite some time but with all the good info i found on all the sites written by so many people i finally worked it out.

I am now trying to complete my most important macro. This Macro is to turn all my devices on and set them to the correct channels and inputs.

I use IR and RemoteMaster (both latest versions) to create keymaps and IR for the Macros. I programmed my DB V3 remote to also use the 4th button (Shift+Dream) to control my Receiver. However, when creating macro`s i just can`t find the way to select this 4th device in the macro. When i first add a "Shift" and after that a "Dream" followed by the rest of the keys nothing happens. Only the 3 standard keys are available to select (Dream, TV, AUX). There are a lot of "Shift+XXXX" keys available but not "Shift+Dream" which i need.

Are there people here that also have this problem and if so how did you solve this. I have searched a lot already but couldn`t tackle this one.

Thanks in advance for looking into my problem.

G64

Capn Trips · Post by **Capn Trips** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:03 am

What you describe does not match what I see in IR. You can assign keymoves and macros to the "shift-DREAM" button, and you can USE the "shift-DREAM" button IN macros, so I don't understand your problem.

Please describe more clearly (specifically) what you're trying (and unable) to do. It's probably more helpful if you upload your guilty IR file to the diagnosis area and post a link to it, as well. A file to look at is usually worth several thousand words.

Edit: AHHHH... I see. The Dreambox remote has a series of distinct shift-XXXX buttons. But you can access the shift-Dream in the dialogue box for creating macros. Just look at the bottom of that box. Highlight DREAM, and click "Add Shift" instead of simply "Add"

G64 · Post by **G64** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:36 pm

Thanks for the quick reply.

In your edited part it says mostly the function that i needed. I have tested it but it doesn`t work. I created a simple macro to turn on the AMP (that is on the 4th button, Shift+Dream). What i did was:

1. Create/Add a new Macro linked to Shift+1
2. Highlighted Dream in IR and added it with the "Add Shift" button.
3. Added "Power" with the normal "Add" button
4. Upload everything to the remote.

The strange thing is is that my Dreambox (not the AMP) itself is turning on with that macro. But when i press Shift + Dream + Power manually, the AMP turns on as it should, but with the macro it won`t.

The link to the complete IR file is: https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=5289

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Here is the summary of the IR file:

GENERAL NOTES:
Goede file voor Sat, TV en AMP. Inclusief Macro voor Amp aan, TV aan, en Dream aan.

Inclusief Macro Shift + TV = Aux

Edit: HDD REC toegevoegd

DEVICE BUTTONS:
Device
# Button Type Code
1 Dream SAT 0031
2 TV TV 2000
3 AUX VCR/LD/DVD 2000
4 OEM VCR/LD/DVD 0188

OTHER SETTINGS:
# Setting Value
1 VPT Device TV
2 VPT Status Off
3 Dream Locked On
4 TV Locked Off
5 AUX Locked Off
6 OEM Locked Off

KEY MOVES:
Device Device
# Button Key Button Device Type Setup Code Hex Cmd EFC or Key Name Note
1 AUX INFO <N/A> DevType11 0188 $C2 028 display/info
2 AUX MENU <N/A> DevType11 0188 $EE 061 menu
3 AUX Key48 <N/A> DevType11 0188 $06 002 sleep
4 TV Ph1 <N/A> TV 1104 $03 026
5 OEM EXIT (Zoom) AUX VCR/LD/DVD 2000 $D0 $01 50372 RETURN
6 OEM Shift-EXIT AUX VCR/LD/DVD 2000 $D9 $03 64710 HDD
(Zoom)

MACROS:
# Key Macro Keys Note
1 SHIFT-TV AUX
2 SHIFT-DREAM TV;Ph1
3 Shift-1 SHIFT-DREAM;POWER Turn on AMP

SPECIAL PROTOCOL FUNCTIONS:
<No Entries>

UPGRADE DEVICES:
Device Note
SAT: 0031
SAT: 0032
SAT: 0033
SAT: 0034
TV: 2000
VCR/LD/DVD: 0188 URC9911 Upgrade - Sony STR-DB1070 (RM v1.82)
TV: 1104
VCR/LD/DVD: 2000 Pioneer DVR-520H (RM v1.82)

UPGRADE PROTOCOLS:
Protocol Note
Protocol: $01FB

sigue · Post by **sigue** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:56 pm

The problem is because you called a macro from another macro, and this does not work. You should repeate your SHIFT-DREAM into the body of your Shift-1 macro

G64 · Post by **G64** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:08 am

Hmm, that`s indeed a very good point. Somewhere in the back of my head i should have known that but as a beginner with JP1 i got i little lost in thi sbig forest. I will look into the macro this weekend to see if i can solve it.

Don`t know if i should start a new thread for this but perhaps you guys know this. Is there an Extender for the Dreambox type remotes. I have looked in the file sections but it seems all the extenders are for remotes like the One For All models. I searched for this several times but couldnt find the right answer (or i used the wrong search terms).

Thanks for clearing the macro thing out.

G64 · Post by **G64** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:01 pm

Thanks again Sique,

it worked like a charm

stabilo555 · Post by **stabilo555** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:43 pm

I´ve got the same problem and i´m a real rookie

. Unluckily neither this

it worked like a charm

nor that

You should repeate your SHIFT-DREAM into the body of your Shift-1 macro

helped me.

I also wanted to press one button on my urc-39930rj0-04 so that all devices turn the power on. Doing this manualy works fine. So when I press dream and afterwards power, tv and afterwards power and shift-tv and afterwards power each device is running.

Because i didn´t manage to program the macro, i tried to isolate the problem before caring about the "macro in macro" problem. I found out that even this simple macro doesnt work (macro #2).

GENERAL NOTES:
<None>

DEVICE BUTTONS:
Device
# Button Type Code
1 TV TV 0680
2 AUX VCR/LD/DVD 1176
3 DREAM SAT 0031

OTHER SETTINGS:
# Setting Value
1 VPT Device AUX
2 VPT Status On
3 TV uses VPT No
4 AUX uses VPT Yes
5 DREAM uses VPT Yes
6 TV Setup Code Lock Off
7 AUX Setup Code Lock Off
8 DREAM Setup Code Lock On

KEY MOVES:
<No Entries>

MACROS:
# Key Macro Keys Note
1 Shift-TV AUX
2 Shift-1 DREAM;POWER

UPGRADE DEVICES:
Device Note
VCR/LD/DVD: 1176 Yamaha RX-496 RDS (RM v1.86)

UPGRADE PROTOCOLS:
<No Entries>

LEARNED SIGNALS:
<No Entries>

LEARNED RAW DATA:
<No Entries>

After pushing the buttons shift+1(simultanously) the remote doesnt work for about 10 secs, but nothing happens. If i´m pressing first shift than 1 the remote doesnt work anymore and i have to remove the batteries.

PLEASE HELP, I was so proud building a working interface!

PS: Sorry for my bad english! Scool is too long over!

Mark Pierson · Post by **Mark Pierson** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:23 pm

stabilo555 wrote:MACROS:
# Key Macro Keys Note
1 Shift-TV AUX
2 Shift-1 DREAM;POWER

After pushing the buttons shift+1(simultanously) the remote doesnt work for about 10 secs, but nothing happens. If i´m pressing first shift than 1 the remote doesnt work anymore and i have to remove the batteries.

To use a shifted numeric button (0-9) in a non-extended remote you have to press shift twice followed by the button. For example: <shift>-<shift>-<1>. A single press of <shift> tells the remote you're trying to send a direct-entry EFC for the selected setup code which is why it appears to lock-up (it should timeout after a few seconds).

stabilo555 · Post by **stabilo555** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:03 pm

Thanks Mark for your quick reply. I tried as you wrote, but nothing happened. The remote was also dead. After 10 minutes i took out the batteries.

Because i thought the problem could be the shift thing, i tried this macro, without shift. Same problem, remote "hangs up" --> batteries out.

GENERAL NOTES:
<None>

DEVICE BUTTONS:
Device
# Button Type Code
1 TV TV 0680
2 AUX VCR/LD/DVD 1176
3 DREAM SAT 0031

OTHER SETTINGS:
# Setting Value
1 VPT Device AUX
2 VPT Status On
3 TV uses VPT No
4 AUX uses VPT Yes
5 DREAM uses VPT Yes
6 TV Setup Code Lock Off
7 AUX Setup Code Lock Off
8 DREAM Setup Code Lock On

KEY MOVES:
<No Entries>

MACROS:
# Key Macro Keys Note
1 Shift-TV AUX
2 1 TV;POWER

UPGRADE DEVICES:
Device Note
VCR/LD/DVD: 1176

UPGRADE PROTOCOLS:
<No Entries>

LEARNED SIGNALS:
<No Entries>

LEARNED RAW DATA:
<No Entries>

the interessting thing is, that the first macro works perfectly.

Any ideas?

Mark Pierson · Post by **Mark Pierson** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:16 pm

stabilo555 wrote:Thanks Mark for your quick reply. I tried as you wrote, but nothing happened. The response was also dead again. After 10 minutes i took out the batteries.

Because i thought the problem could be the shift thing, i tried this macro, without shift. Same problem, remote "hangs up" --> batteries out.

DEVICE BUTTONS:
Device
# Button Type Code
1 TV TV 0680

MACROS:
# Key Macro Keys Note
1 Shift-TV AUX
2 1 TV;POWER

Does the normal TV device work? You have TV/0680 assigned to the TV device but I can't see where TV/0680 is built-in to the Dreambox (according to the Devices.xls spreadsheet it doesn't exist in ANY remote) and there is no upgrade listed for TV/0680. That could be why the remote is locking up.

stabilo555 · Post by **stabilo555** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:34 pm

the normal tv device works. i got the code from the dreambox manual, where some codes are listed. Its a panasonic 42pz85e. But i also tried "2 1 dream;power" just for testing with the same effect.

Mark Pierson · Post by **Mark Pierson** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:51 pm

stabilo555 wrote:But i also tried "2 1 dream;power" just for testing with the same effect.

That's odd...

What happens if you create the macro on a non-numeric button?

damir · Post by **damir** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:35 pm

Mark Pierson wrote:Does the normal TV device work? You have TV/0680 assigned to the TV device but I can't see where TV/0680 is built-in to the Dreambox (according to the Devices.xls spreadsheet it doesn't exist in ANY remote) and there is no upgrade listed for TV/0680. That could be why the remote is locking up.

TV/0650 + DevCodeOffset 30 = TV/0680

stabilo555 wrote:I also wanted to press one button on my urc-39930rj0-04 so that all devices turn the power on. Doing this manualy works fine. So when I press dream and afterwards power, tv and afterwards power and shift-tv and afterwards power each device is running.

There is built-in "pause protocol" in dreambox remote.
After every keystroke in macro (except last) remote expects duration of the pause.
Since this is not supported by IR you must enter pause as keystroke.
Shortest pause is 01 and it is also the button code of SHIFT button.
So your PowerAll macro should look like this in IR:

Shift-1 DREAM;SHIFT;POWER;SHIFT;TV;SHIFT;POWER;SHIFT;AUX;SHIFT;POWER

stabilo555 · Post by **stabilo555** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:45 pm

Thanx for your help!

@damir: fantastic, that works(simple macro for testing purposes: shift-1 dream;shift;power). Also works with shift-1 dream;shift;power;shift;tv;shift;power to turn the tv and the box off. two more troubles:

1. to turn on the tv i have to push the button for about 4 sec (not for turning it off). can i tell ir to do that?
2. shift-aux;shift;power doesnt work. I think i´ve got the same problem as g64 at the beginning of the post, but i think i´m stupid to find out what that means:

The problem is because you called a macro from another macro, and this does not work. You should repeate your SHIFT-DREAM into the body of your Shift-1 macro

damir · Post by **damir** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:22 pm

stabilo555 wrote:two more troubles:

1. to turn on the tv i have to push the button for about 4 sec (not for turning it off). can i tell ir to do that?

You can use Device Combiner with Duration Control.

2. shift-aux;shift;power doesnt work.

shift-aux is wrong
SHIFT before AUX is pause between previous command (POWER) and AUX, it is not shifted AUX.

Shift-1 DREAM;SHIFT;POWER;SHIFT;TV;SHIFT;POWER;SHIFT;AUX;SHIFT;POWER