Problem on 8811 w/Bell Receiver 2700

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Problem on 8811 w/Bell Receiver 2700

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I have a Bell Receiver 2700, I have no trouble to put the advanced codes (such as Clear, Page up and Page down to EXIT, FWD and F.FWD buttons respectively) to the remote and it works flawlessly.

After I found the upgrade codes and downloaded to the remote (same function to the same buttons as above), the EXIT button would not work at all - No LED flashing. On the other hand, the F.FWD should be Page Down but it turned out to be a function of Arrow right. I have already tried to delete the Keymove on those buttons, but it would not help at all.

I know EFC codes are correct because when same function assigned to M buttons, they worked perfectly. The following is my txt file

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jp1/files ... 202700.txt

Anyone can help me?

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Post by jon_armstrong »

KM Master version 8.24 and earlier is broken with the Dish_network protocol and the 8811. 8.25 is now out so unless you have updated to that version that's why it didn't work.

But, in looking over the file I have some questions. I think you want to add four buttons to your satellite device. Why not just use key moves in IR (it is the same as assigning advanced codes only easier to do) and move those buttons to the satellite device that I assume is SAT/0775.

You can assign those EFC's to any button in the Satellite device. Otherwise, you would have to push a different device button to use these four commands. To use your device upgrade directly, you would need to assign SAT/1775 to Cable and then press oone of those four buttons.

Or you would not assign that upgrade to any device and key move the four buttons. But since you can key move those EFC's in SAT/0775, you don't need the upgrade.
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Post by ck747 »

Thanks for your reply.

I would like to free up the MOVE/MACRO memory spaces, that is why I used the device upgrade codes.

I have already upgraded the KM to v8.25 and used the same satellite receiver txt file to program the remote. Unfortunately, problems remain the same as before. (Again the advanced codes work flawlessly on those buttons)

Does anyone have more suggestions?

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Post by jon_armstrong »

I think you don't understand how a device upgrade works. The upgrade you created has a total of four commands. Two are assigned to keys that require key moves. Even using a device upgrade, certain buttons can't be programmed directly (those vary depending on device type e.g., SAT, TV, VCR) You can't assign any shifted buttons for example in any device type.

I think that you are attempting to do a device upgrade that will selectively upgrade only the buttons that you have put in the functions tab. However, device upgrades are all or nothing. If you assign your SAT/1775 to the Satellite device key, you will have only four buttons. If you assign SAT/0775 to the SAT device, there is no way the remote knows about SAT/1775 unless you assign it to a device key or key move it.

You could assign SAT/1775 to a different device, but then to use those four commands, you would have to change the device to access those keys.

If I am not understanding what you are trying to do, then please explain a little further. It would be helpful for you to post your file from IR, not just the device upgrade.

You could add all of the keys from SAT/0775 to SAT/1775 then it would do what you want, BUT you are only going to save 10 bytes of KM/Macro memory.
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Post by ck747 »

Thanks, jon_armstrong.

I really appreciate you for correcting my concept. As a newbie like me, I thought the new device upgrade codes (device code 1775) would work/superimpose with the exiting OFA device code 0775 on the same device button on the remote.

With new concept, I copied someone else satellite KM worksheet and downloaded the IR file to the remote. Everything works perfectly.

I have a question in the KM worksheet, there were more than 30 function created in the function sheet, but only 25 function appeared in the Button sheet. Function like Select, Page Up, Page Down, Display and Guide were all missing in the Button sheet. Did I do anything wrong or there are bugs in KM worksheet? I am using the KM v8.25.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jp1/files ... 204700.txt

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Post by gfb107 »

Functions are defined on the Functions tab. These are the commands that the device will respond to.

The Buttons tab is for assigning the desired functions onto the buttons of the remote.

Whoever created this upgrade didn't map all the availabled functions onto buttons. You can do that yourself.

If you look carefully at the Functions tab, you'll see that
1. Many named functions don't have hex commands. If I had created this file I would have deleted those functions.
2. There are a number of defined functions that send the same hex command.

For example:
mute = display
enter = select
vol up = right arrow
channel up = up arrow
vol down = left arrow
channel down = down arrow
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Post by ck747 »

Thank you very much for your helps. Without the information, I would never get my concept right.

All problems have been fixed, it was my computer problem somehow it would not show all the functions I created on the Button worksheet.

You guys are fantastic.

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