JP1 Remotes

Ube_Astard · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 185 Location: Stockport UK

JP1 remote :URC9910B
JP1 user :yes limited knowledge
original remote :yes
file section :yes
pronto file :no
partially working: no
learning :yes
Acer AT3201W LCD TV
Sony SLV-D950G DVD/VCR
Pace cable receiver

My 9910s codes from the manual doesnt work any of my items. A manual seach hasnt given anyworking codes. With my old 7544 I was able to set up the majority of my items from the supplied codes or from manual search (acer LCD partially working 0170, Pace cable 1068, sony DVD/VCR combo 0864).
How do I proceed now, am I to learn all the functions, am I to find working or partially working codes or is it because I have imported a US remote (my 7544 showed up in IR as URC OFA -1k European version)?

The Robman · Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:41 pm Post subject:

You're using a US remote in the UK, so that is to be expected. Your first move should be to check the file section to see if we already have upgrades for most of your devices, you're not the first UK JP1er so it's quite likely that we do.

But, if we don't, then yes, you should learn the buttons and create your own upgrades. After all, that's how all the other upgrade files came to be.

See if this helps...
http://www.hifi-remote.com/jp1/help/
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Ube_Astard · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 185 Location: Stockport UK

The two upgrades I had from the files section and used them with my 7544 -Sony SLV-D950G DVD/VCR and the Pace NTL UK DITV1000. Neither work on my 9910. And I tried learning a couple of buttons last night. The remotes said 'SUCCESS' after thr procedure, but the devices did not respond to the learned commands so I dont know what I did wrong.

underquark · Expert Joined: 20 Jun 2005 Posts: 874 Location: UK

Get a pen and paper, two new sets of batteries and the original and learning remote together. New batteries often help when the signal is marginal or diffcult to learn.

Learn about 15 to 20 buttons starting with the obvious ones - Num0 thru 9, power, menu, arrows etc.

Upload to IR. Go to the "Learned" tab and look for successfully-decoded signals; they will be the ones with names and numbers relating to protocol, device, subdevice, OBC, Hex, EFC. Some might be partially decoded (there may be two lines of data with one line being plausible and the other rubbish) and some won't decode at first attempt. Write down the successful codes.

Now select "Delete All" to wipe out the learned signals and then "upload" to the remote to clear them from the EEPROM memory. Start again with more buttons or any that you missed first time round.

For recalcitrant buttons I suggest tackling them individually by repeatedly learning them to different keys. E.g. learn the power button to keys 1, 2 and 3, mute to 4, 5, 6, menu to 7, 8, 9 etc. and then see if at least one out of each of three attempts has scored a hit.

It can be a bit like a jigsaw - once you get enough codes you can "see" the whole picture; even if a few are missing you can sometimes guess them e.g. Num1=22, Num2=23, Num3=??, Num4=25.

Last resort - i.e. no-one else has an upgrade, you just can't learn a particular button and there's no particular pattern to the codes (such as with NEC1, Dev0 devices) - you'll just have to build a dummy upgrade and try out the remaining possible codes, often from 0 to 255 but sometimes just from 0 to 31 or another range depending upon the protocol in use.

johnsfine · Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:50 am Post subject:

johnsfine

Ube_Astard · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 185 Location: Stockport UK

I tried the 9910 on my old Mitsubishi TV and it was OK. Will try the learning but working many hours at the mo' so no doubt, I will keep in touch when I pick it up again maybe Friday.

Ube_Astard · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 185 Location: Stockport UK

OK, I got it all working now learning etc but I dont understand why some passes get different results from others even thought they still work. I mean some passes I open the learned signals in IR and it shows up a 'sent once while key is being pressed' with loads of figures in the tab. Then others it shows as standard 'protocol/device/sub.......'.
I would also like to know if it is possible to use the codes I success fully manual obtained using my 7544, and how.

The Robman · Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:33 am Post subject:

If the buttons where you see "loads of numbers" are from the same device as buttons that display the protocol, etc, the most likely reason for this is that these buttons were not learned correctly. If you re-learn them you will probably see the protocol, etc.

If all the bad learns are for the same device, it probably means that this device uses an IR protocol that we haven't seen before, so DecodeIR (which does the translation behind the scenes) doesn't recognise it. If this is the case, post your IR file and provide a link to it.

Ube_Astard · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 185 Location: Stockport UK

Thanks for your help and its all going well now I had the 'beginners....' refresher. Some questions.Looking at the KM buttons sheet, there is C column - function, and D column -shift function. How you you access shift functions?
Is there a way to incorporate my TV volume and mute functions so that they work whatever device I am using? I thought that was what the VPT was for but I couldnt get it working on my 7544.

The Robman · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:56 am Post subject:

Mark Pierson · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:12 am Post subject:

Ube_Astard · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 185 Location: Stockport UK

Again thanks for your helps.
However I am now puzzled as to why I cannot get IR to recognise upgrades from KM for my 7544. There is no problem with the 9910, but when I load upgrades then change the remote to 7544 and paste in IR, though it appears in the device window, I dont get the option of assigning a button and the code doesnt appear in the general tab. Any suggestions as to what I could be missing?

johnsfine · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:16 am Post subject:

Capn Trips · Expert Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990

To clarify (or obfuscate - you decide):

When you add a device upgrade to IR, it will only ask you to assign that upgrade to a device key (via a pop-up window) IF the upgrade brought over with it any keymoves. If there are no keymoves, you get no pop-up prompt, but the device upgrade is there, ready to be loaded into the EEPROM.

To actually USE this upgrade, on the General Tab, you must manually enter the device type and setup code you want for the device you want it on. The device TYPE is a drop-down, but the SETUP CODE must be physically TYPED IN! OMG! Very Happy

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