URC-6131nw problem with uploaded devices

mattg865 · Post by **mattg865** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:05 pm

I just got my 6131nw from Surf Remote. When I upload devices that were created with my 8810w, I switch it to 6131nw and map the keys the way I want them. When I copy/paste to IR.exe and then into the 6131nw, when I see if they work it works with my tower fan upgrade and my Pioneer receiver SX-315 upgrade, BUT with my Pioneer DVR-231s upgrade it seems the mapping of the buttons is sort of wacky. These upgrades worked perfectly in my 8810w. I've tried those "fixed" 6131nw files in the RDF section but they don't seem to work right.

gfb107 · Post by **gfb107** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:36 pm

For most remotes, you can usually get away with using the extender RDF in RM with the un-extended RDF in IR (or vice-versa), but for the 6131s it is essential that you use the same RDF in both IR and RM.

If that isn't the problem, have you noticed that the keys that are "sort of wacky" are those that got mapped to keymoves? If so, you may be running into the problem that the unextended 6131 doesn't support keymoves for setup codes/device upgrades that use a protocol that has 2-byte commands.

mattg865 · Post by **mattg865** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:44 pm

In the device output in RM I don't see any keymoves.

mattg865 · Post by **mattg865** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:51 pm

Strange, now my 6131nw will not talk to IR.exe. And when I do the 981 command I get 2 blinks then 1 long blink. What's going on?

Post by **The Robman** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:53 pm

mattg865 wrote:Strange, now my 6131nw will not talk to IR.exe. And when I do the 981 command I get 2 blinks then 1 long blink. What's going on?

Something's wrong with the remote, the long blink means that the remote was unable to initialize the EEPROM.

mattg865 · Post by **mattg865** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:54 pm

Weird, when I took the batteries out I got it to talk to IR and when I put the batteries back in it successfully did the 981 command.

mattg865 · Post by **mattg865** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:06 pm

Back to my original question. Most of the keys I mapped in RM for my DVR-231s do NOT do anything. None of the number buttons, the arrow keys, the menu button. Most of the buttons just dont work except for the play, pause and stop buttons.

Edit: Could it be the upgrade that I made with my 8810w for my Pioneer DVR-231s? I have it uploaded here in the upgrade files section. Here is a link: http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=2841

Mark Pierson · Post by **Mark Pierson** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:01 pm

I think the problem is with RM. When you open the upgrade (for the 8810w), the Functions tab shows the Prefix Device and Prefix Command for several functions. After selecting the 6131nw remote, they all get set to "none".

mattg865 · Post by **mattg865** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:07 pm

I just figured out the same thing! When I switch to the 6131nw those 2 parts change to none. The only original commands that did not have those 2 parts and therefore were not changed is play, pause, and stop. How do I fix this?

Edit: BTW I'm using RM 1.48.

Edit 2: And Java version 1.5.0_06

Edit 3: TheRobman, how did removing the batteries fix the inability to talk to ir.exe and the 2 short and 1 long blink with 981? Upon putting the batteries back in, I got the usual 2 short blinks, short pause, 2 short blinks with 981.

whompus · Post by **whompus** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:39 pm

It will be a bit tedious but will work for the time being. Make a note of the 3 that are prefex comd of 42. Then go under functions tab then previx device and click on where it says none and make all them 171 but the ones that where originally none. Then under prefix comd make them all 44 but the ones that where none and the 3 that needs to be 42.

BTW..This matches the 0631 dvd code from ofa but I dont know of any remote that code is in.

gfb107 · Post by **gfb107** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:00 pm

I've found the bug in RM (it's specific to switching between remotes that use different versions of the Pioneer MIX protocol).
Use RM v1.49

Post by **The Robman** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:06 pm

mattg865 wrote:TheRobman, how did removing the batteries fix the inability to talk to ir.exe and the 2 short and 1 long blink with 981? Upon putting the batteries back in, I got the usual 2 short blinks, short pause, 2 short blinks with 981.

You got me, I thought the remote was broken.

Post by **The Robman** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:06 pm

gfb107 wrote:I've found the bug in RM (it's specific to switching between remotes that use different versions of the Pioneer MIX protocol).
Use RM v1.49

How about that for fast service, eh?

mattg865 · Post by **mattg865** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:40 pm

Really fast! Thanks everyone.

mattg865 · Post by **mattg865** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:26 am

One more thing, when I got my 6131nw I thought a JP1 cable was oriented the same way as my 8810w, with the cable going down to the bottom side of the remote. It took me a while to notice the design of the 6 pin surrounding area with that notch that looked similar to my 8810w but was pointing in the opposite direction. So I then tried the JP1 cable plugged in the opposite direction with the cable going towards the front of the remote where the IR emitter is located and it works that way, the opposite way than the 8810w.