Code conflict checker

underquark · Post by **underquark** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:34 pm

Feel free to flame me if I've missed something but I can't find an easy way in KM to check whether I've mistakenly assigned the same code to more than one button. If it's of any use to someone I've written a small spreadsheet which takes a column (or columns) of data and simply checks for duplicates.

gfb107 · Post by **gfb107** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:35 am

In KM or RM, the list of available functions is color coded. Black text means the function has been assigned, red means it has not. That should help you realize that a function is already assigned before assigning it again.

Also, in RM, the tool tip text (fly over help) for the functions on the Buttons and Layout tabs list all the buttons to which it has been assigned.

underquark · Post by **underquark** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:49 am

Thanks. I mainly use my spreadsheet when I'm copying a list of codes from one upgrade to another to check if I have more than one of the same code inwhich csae I've either made a mistake or one of them needs a different 2nd byte.

gfb107 · Post by **gfb107** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:59 am

AH. OK.

In RM, you can sort the Functions by any column (just click any column header, shift-click to sort descending), which makes it easy to spot duplicate entries.

underquark · Post by **underquark** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:37 am

I usually use KM but recently got an 8910 and have started to give RM a whirl. Went off it a bit when I couldn't get one of my devices upgraded correctly (uses StreamZap protocol and the KM workaround is to add 192 to the device number to change the fixed data accordingly) and the button layout for my Euro Kameleon 8040 doesn't seem 100% right but I have to say that its' a very good program.

I'm now reaching for it first rather than KM particularly when all I want to do is tweak an existing upgrade (e.g. when I've added a new macro in IR and want some buttons moved around a bit). Very occasionally it causes my machine to reboot (Win XP SP2) but I haven't spotted a pattern yet other than it seems to have followed closing down RM and then answering "No" to saving the upgrade that I'd been working on.

Any problems are minor and for a program that I get to use for free I really can't complain. I bought XP after all (came with the computer and no discount for not having it) and XP is far more flaky than RM. Thanks for a good product. One minor question - is there any way to make the whole thing bigger so that I can read it easier (other than changing the resolution of my screen)?

Nils_Ekberg · Post by **Nils_Ekberg** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:06 am

underquark wrote:button layout for my Euro Kameleon 8040 doesn't seem 100% right.

Tell me what wrong with the button layout and I will fix it. I thought I had that one pretty good since I have an 8040.

underquark wrote:One minor question - is there any way to make the whole thing bigger so that I can read it easier (other than changing the resolution of my screen)?

Are you talking about the font, window, image or something else?

underquark · Post by **underquark** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 12:22 pm

Nils_Ekberg wrote:Tell me what wrong with the button layout and I will fix it. I thought I had that one pretty good since I have an 8040.

In TV mode the text buttons are shown as 2 columns, 3 rows but should be 2 rows of 3.

Nils Ekberg wrote: Are you talking about the font, window, image or something else?

I'm talking about looking at the menu and I see "Options...Look and Feel" and it does it for me by making the font bigger and I'm sorry, I should have spotted that, please forgive me, please, please, please, as it's actually all right now.

There was somrthing else about the 8040 buttons but I've since learned over the offending button (exit, I think) so will need to go back and check it out.

Nils_Ekberg · Post by **Nils_Ekberg** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:41 pm

The button layout is fixed in the next release. I had to compromise with some of the transport buttons vs. teletext buttons and put them side by side.

Nils_Ekberg · Post by **Nils_Ekberg** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:45 pm

underquark wrote: There was somrthing else about the 8040 buttons but I've since learned over the offending button (exit, I think) so will need to go back and check it out.

It was the PVR button that was not showing under the exit button so I fixed that also.

underquark · Post by **underquark** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:25 pm

Thank you very much for reply and e-mail. Now please go and work for MS so that XP problems can be fixed as quickly as this.

Having built an interface adapter for the 8040 I now have to find the darned thing to try this out. It appears to be missing from the place where I left it to have been replaced by a Nokia phone link cable, a Gameboy battery pack and a mini-fan (battery almost discharged) - hmm, you don't think the kids have been in my study do you?

Post by **ElizabethD** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:48 pm

gfb107 wrote:In RM, you can sort the Functions by any column (just click any column header, shift-click to sort descending), which makes it easy to spot duplicate entries.

1. Currently function names on the function tab are case sensitive, could that be changed or be an option? I really don't like discrete on after Volume as I sort on function name.
2. RM permits sorting single column at a time. I'd find it handy if it could be able to nest the sort the way Excel does it. For instance, it would be cool to be able to sort by subdevice+obc, or by subdevice+function name. Combination of 3 columns might be nice.
3. When "metal' look is selected, there is no x to close the window. I dropped the task bar down and still can't slide that window up or down to find x or some close button

Capn Trips · Post by **Capn Trips** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:20 pm

ElizabethD wrote:2. RM permits sorting single column at a time. I'd find it handy if it could be able to nest the sort the way Excel does it. For instance, it would be cool to be able to sort by subdevice+obc, or by subdevice+function name. Combination of 3 columns might be nice.

You can effectively accomplish this by sorting by each of your desired sort criteria in reverse order of "priority" in turn, i.e. if you want to sort by Device code first, then by Sub-Device 1, then by OBC1, then by Sub-Device 2, then by OBC2 (for a particularly convoluted example), then click the column header for each of those values IN REVERSE ORDER and "Voila!" - you have your desired sorting.

Post by **ElizabethD** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:46 pm

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Capn Trips wrote:You can effectively accomplish this by sorting by each of your desired sort criteria in reverse order of "priority"

Cool

Works and isn't that complicated.
I thought I had to go with copy-paste to Excel, rearrange, bring back. But what you wrote made me try again on a simple upgrade. Starting with innermost - first sort on OBC, THEN sort on Subdevice. It all gets arranged as if you asked for both in Excel. Validate by sorting on function name or #, to really mess it up, and repeat of the sort. Seems to hold up. I thought I was doing something like that before

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