"Remote not Found" RemoteMaster + RCA RCRP05BR +

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VGLance
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"Remote not Found" RemoteMaster + RCA RCRP05BR +

Post by VGLance »

I just built a new HTPC. I custom made the usb --> 6-pin cable from Tommy's pdf file. I have the RCA RCRP05BR (not listed in the program, but the RCRP05B is - not sure if that's part of the problem) remote.

I already programmed in my Denon AVR 1912 receiver and Samsung 59" PN59D8000 tv into the remote using the codes provided by RCA. I changed the volume lock to the receiver and that is working beautifully.

Now to focus on getting the remote to work with the TV....

I installed RemoteMaster and that was flawless including pointing to the Map and RDF folders.

I log into the RM IR program as instructed in the beginner's thread here at hifi remote to select the "Download from Remote" option from the Remote drop down menu.

But.... "No Remote Found"

I've tried absolutely everything I can think of to get this to work. Plugged into different usb ports (both USB 2.0 and 3.0), tried even flipping the 6-pin around in case I plugged it in wrong, re-checked to make sure I have the 4 wires properly inserted into the 6 pin plug as instructed... everything.

I've installed java development kit on my computer. JRE is enabled. I don't know if maybe I need to do something with java to get the program to see my remote.

Anyway, I'm posting here because all the searching I've done have come up empty and all I did was follow the beginner's guide to the letter.

Also, even if I get this program to see my remote, I'm not sure where to go from there as far as controlling WMC because the remote I have is not listed in RemoteMaster, only the RCRP05B is.

Any ideas?
mdavej
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Post by mdavej »

The BR is identical to the B. Have you tried Tommy's troubleshooting guide?

You'll also want to pick the JP1.x interface type in RMIR, confirm the FTDI (or Prolific) drivers are loaded in Device Manager and check and see what com port was assigned.

Did you buy a pre-made cable and just modify the 6 pin connector, or did you build one entirely from scratch, and if so, what components or cable did you use? Can you provide a link to the pdf you used?
VGLance
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Post by VGLance »

I used Tommy's pdf file here...

https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... e_id=10864

And did exactly as instructed in buying that usb to 8-pin and the little 6 pin plug and modifying it. It was very easy, his instructions were awesome.

In my device manager, under Universal Serial Bus Controllers, the first listing is eHome Infrared Receiver (USBCIR).

Is that a specific USB port I'm supposed to be plugging the Rosewill Receiver into? There are two USB 3.0 ports in the front of the machine and a buttload off the I/O jackpack in the back.

There's a 1x4 pin connector on my Asrock z77 Pro4 motherboard that is labeled: Consumer Infrared Module Header. Don't know if that is important.

And how do I know what com port was assigned? Under Ports (COM & LPT), there's only one entry:

Communications Port (COM1)

In my device manager I see that there's a question mark under Other Devices for a:

TTL232r-3v3

I think that's the one, but how do I load the driver for it? And I didn't see any instructions on how do to this stuff in the beginner's guide. Maybe there's a beginner's beginner's guide I need to read first lol.

There's also a Video Controller under Other Devices as well, but I'm not sure why and if it's related to what I'm trying to do with the remote. My Asus 7770's Catalyst drivers are already installed properly and listed in the Display Adapters.
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Re: "Remote not Found" RemoteMaster + RCA RCRP05B

Post by tranx »

VGLance wrote:...re-checked to make sure I have the 4 wires properly inserted into the 6 pin plug as instructed...
In my case, even doing it the second or third time, I misunderstood the label on the numbered diagram on P2 in "Easier way to build your own JP1.2/3..."

The problem was understanding the labelling of the plug: 'view from contact insertion side', and when I transposed the yellow and green leads it worked!
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Post by 3FG »

The question mark seems to imply that the drivers for the FTDI chip weren't found. Get the drivers at FTDI-- you want the VCP type. Generally Win 7 has the correct drivers already installed, but perhaps something has gone wrong or you have an older OS. Make sure you select the correct driver for 32 bit/64 bit.

The Rosewill and IR port stuff is irrelevant.
VGLance
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Post by VGLance »

Ok I installed the driver and that worked, but now I have a USB Serial Port listed with a ? under Other Devices. The USB Serial Converter is now listed properly under Universal Serial Buss Controllers.

And I'm still not getting the remote to be recognized by RMIR.

I even tried switching the green and yellow wires to no avail. Going to switch them back to be in line with the chart in Tommy's pdf.

I feel I'm close, I just don't know what it could be. You mentioned something about seeing what com part was assigned? I have RMIR set to auto, I figured that should work.

On a side note, does plugging into a USB 3.0 port vs USB 2.0 matter?
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Post by mdavej »

Unplug all the stuff you don't need at the moment and just focus on the JP1 cable. With multiple USB serial devices you're making things very hard on yourself.

Reboot with nothing plugged in, then plug in your JP1 cable and check device manager. If you still get unknown devices, the driver install went wrong. Uninstall and try again untill there are no question marks. Don't open RMIR until device manager looks good.

I don't know if USB 3.0 makes any difference. It's supposed to be backward compatible, but you never know. Try a USB 2.0 port.

In Win 7 32 and 64, the FTDI drivers are built in, so you shouldn't have had to load anything. I'll plug in my cable on a few hours and tell you what I see in device manager.
VGLance
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Post by VGLance »

Ok, other than the wireless mouse and keyboard which I need to keep plugged in, I just have this cable for the remote and the Rosewill IR Receiver. So I'll remove the receiver and try again with the device manager.
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Post by VGLance »

OMG it worked!

I unplugged the rosewill receiver, backed out of the RMIR program, reinstalled the driver and bam, it downloaded the remote's codes into the program!

Going to try to get it to activate the 1972 (I believe) code for WMC next.
VGLance
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Post by VGLance »

Ok, so I tried programming the TV button like I did with the receiver and TV. Press the Sat/Cbl button (which I guess is the one I'd use for WMC since the remote doesn't have a dedicated WMC button). Held down setup till it blinked twice, typed in 1972, then... nothing. I know from reading articles that the power (which you use to test to see if the programming worked) button doesn't work with computers, but I tried using other functions on the remote like left and right and whatnot to navigate in WMC and nothing is working.

I guess you have to use the program to get the codes into the remote, and I'm assuming WMC codes are in there somewhere, just not finding any threads on how to add that into the remote that I specifically have.
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Post by 3FG »

Setup codes refer to the device type. Code 1972 for MCE is a Video setup code, and if you enter this code manually, it either need to be assigned to the DVD/DVR device buttons, or you need to use the 992 command to switch the cable button to a video type.

With RMIR, change the Cable button to Video type, and enter in 1972.
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Post by mdavej »

THIS upgrade probably has alot more functions than the built-in code anyway.
VGLance
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Post by VGLance »

I got most of the functions working, but the exit key is somehow the delete key.

I'd also like to set up a macro to turn the tv on, receiver on, and go to live tv (even if wmc is minimized) if possible.
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Re: "Remote not Found" RemoteMaster + RCA RCRP05B

Post by Raptor88 »

tranx wrote:
VGLance wrote:...re-checked to make sure I have the 4 wires properly inserted into the 6 pin plug as instructed...
In my case, even doing it the second or third time, I misunderstood the label on the numbered diagram on P2 in "Easier way to build your own JP1.2/3..."

The problem was understanding the labelling of the plug: 'view from contact insertion side', and when I transposed the yellow and green leads it worked!
I ordered a "6pin FTDI FT232RL USB to Serial adapter module USB TO TTL RS232 Arduino Cable" from ebay per a link I found in these forums.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/6pin-FTDI-FT232 ... 5d3713fcc0

My plan is to cut the flat connector and super glue it to form a 2x3 connector. Then use Tommy Tyler's writeup:

https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... e_id=10864

When I insert the wires into the modified connector, it's not clear to me what the "view fom contact insertion side" means. When I look at the color of the wires in the "picture", it appears that the diagram with the pin numbers should say "view from the wire side of the connector". Is that correct?

Thanks,
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3FG
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Post by 3FG »

Some definitions: The remote PCB has 6 pins. The cable contains 6 wires. The end of each wire has a contact attached. Tommy's document under Swapping Connectors describes moving the contacts from one housing to the other.

So the contact insertion side is the wire side.
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