Learned Signals

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Many of the JP1 models support learning. Your remote's user manual may lead you to believe that you can only teach your learning keys, L1 – L4, but that is not the case. You can learn to almost any key. The reason we always try to say "almost" when we talk about the ability to learn to almost all of the buttons is because there are always a few buttons that qualify as special buttons and cannot be re-programmed in the normal ways (e.g. with learning).

The device buttons are the prime example, but right after them are buttons like [FAV/SCAN] and [SLEEP] on remotes like the 15-1994, the [LIGHT] button and the [SETUP] button are other examples of buttons that can never be re-programmed (without an extender, at least).

Some of the newer remotes have restrictions on the [POWER] button too.

The [COMM SKIP] button on the 8910 is obviously another example.

Once you eliminate the special buttons, you are free to program every other button in all device modes, regardless of whether that device mode usually includes that button. For example, the three PIP buttons are typically only included in the TV keymap. So, if you are programming the CD mode, you might elect to use learning to program them instead.

Most EEPROM learning remotes will hold about 28 learned keys, some of the FLASH remotes up to 50 learned keys. Learned keys have a special area of memory. See Chapter 3 - Memory Usage for more information..

From the information here you can create new key moves, or new device upgrades.

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When you download from your remote, DecodeIR attempts to identify the protocol, device, sub-device and OBC and EFC. This information is of great use when you are doing KeyMoves or building device upgrades.

If a signal didn't decode you will get the timing data. You can get that information on all signals if you turn on the Advanced>Forced Learned Timings options. This is really helpful when you are trying to learn about protocols. But even if you are not interested in the data, the Code Summary is a very handy report for gathering information to make an upgrade. Below, you'll see what the screen looks like if you turn on the Forced Learned Timings.
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The UEI Learned format is the same for all models of remotes. You can copy a learn from one remote to another. Some remotes have learning memory but no learning hardware. If you have another learner you can transfer the learn from one type of remote to another

When you push the Add or Edit button you get this screen. You can change the bound device and the key its assigned to.

A new feature in 8.03 also allows you to add a pronto hex as a learn.


Below you'll find the learning procedure for non-LCD remotes, and LCD remotes.

Here is the learning procedure for non-LCD remotes (i.e., 15-1994, URC-8811, etc).


  1) [optional] Press a device key (see note) 

  2) Press and hold [SETUP], 2 flashes 

  3) Type 975, 2 flashes 

  4) [optional] Press a device button (see note) 

  5) Press the button to be programmed 

     
        At this point the red LED will flash rapidly.  This is your cue to start pressing the teaching remote button. As soon as you start pressing the teaching remote button, the red LED will stop flashing, but you should KEEP PRESSING the teaching remote button until the red LED either flashes twice (to indicate the learn was successful) or once (to indicate it wasn't). The remote will analyze the data and optimize it for storage.

     
  6) If you want to learn more buttons, go back to step 4 and repeat. 

  7) When you're finished, press and hold [SETUP] (2 flashes) to lock in the learns. 

     
     Note: Pressing a device button in step 1 sets the default device mode to be used for all the learned buttons, thus eliminating the need for pressing a device button in step 4. You should do this if you want to learn all the buttons under the same device mode.

     
  If you omit step 1 and step 4, the buttons will be learned under the last device mode used, so if you can't remember what that is, press a device button. 

     
  If you want to learn the buttons under several different device modes, omit step 1 and press the relevant device buttons in step 4.  Once a device button has been selected in step 4, it will remain in effect until a different device mode is selected in step 4, so you can omit this step until you need the buttons to be learned under a different mode.

     

Here is the procedure for LCD remotes (RS 15-2116/2117, URC-8910/9910/HT Pro, etc.)


  Ensure good batteries in both remotes.

  Place the remotes on a flat surface facing properly at a distance of 2-4 inches. 

     
  1) [optional] Press a device button (see note) 

  2) Press and hold [SETUP], "CODE SET" displays on LCD 

  3) Press "UP" or "DOWN" ARROW repeatedly until the LCD displays "IR LEARN" 

  4) [optional] Press a device button (see note) 

  5) Press the button to be programmed 

     At this point the LCD will display "LEARNING", this is your cue to start pressing the teaching remote button. As soon as you start pressing the teaching remote button, the LCD display will go blank, but you should KEEP PRESSING the teaching remote button until the LCD display displays either "SUCCESS" (to indicate the learn was successful) or "FAILED" (to indicate it wasn't).

     
  6) If you want to learn more buttons, go back to step 4 and repeat. 

  7) When you're finished, press exit to lock in the learns. 

     
     Note: Pressing a device button in step 1 sets the default device mode to be used for all the learned buttons, thus eliminating the need for pressing a device button in step 4. You should do this if you want to learn all the buttons under the same device mode.

  If you omit step 1 and step 4, the buttons will be learned under the last device mode used, so if you can't remember what that is, press a device button. 

     
  If you want to learn the buttons under several different device modes, omit step 1 and press the relevant device buttons in step 4.  Once a device button has been selected in step 4, it will remain in effect until a different device mode is selected in step 4, so you can omit this step until you need the buttons to be learned under a different mode.

  

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