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mattg568 · Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 80

In this thread: http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9553 Capn Trips showed me how to make the Pioneer 4DEV protocol work with the HCS08 CPU OFA remotes, which without that trick, wouldn't let the upgrade that uses that protocol work with the remote.

Now I need a way to make the Pioneer DVD protocol work the same way.

Does anyone know how to do it like how Capn Trips made the Pioneer 4DEV protocol work?

Also, why is it that the HCS08 CPU has multiple protocols that don't work with it yet in RM? I've seen some people that have the same issue as me, but with a different protocol that doesn't work with the HCS08 CPU.

Capn Trips · Expert Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990

As previously, add this to the [Pioneer DVD] section of Protocols.ini

The Robman

mattg568 · Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 80

Thanks Capn Trips. And Rob, this upgrade http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1856 is what I use for my DVD player. Can it be as simple to change the protocol from Pioneer DVD to Pioneer MIX in RM because I tried that and I think it didn't work.

Capn Trips · Expert Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990

OK. Maybe what I did won't work, but I just took the HCS08 Pioneer DVD2 protocol code from Keymap Master above.
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Capn Trips · Expert Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990

mattg568 · Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 80

The upgrade had this:

Pioneer DVD
Device 1 = 163
Device 2 = 175
Prefix Command = 153

Upon changing to Pioneer MIX it made the 153 go away. The 153 was also the constant OBC code so all I did was put that in Cmd1 (OBC), loaded it into my 10820 and it would seem that it works.

kupakai · Joined: 29 Sep 2006 Posts: 283 Location: New York

I think there's a small problem withe Pioneer DVD protocol in protocols.ini.
The last version used to have this line:

CmdParmInit=PickInitializer(0,,0) PickInitializer(1,,1) PickInitializer(2,0,2)

and as I mentioned in this thread, I think it is supposed to be this:

CmdParmInit=PickInitializer(0,,0) PickInitializer(1,,2) PickInitializer(2,0,1)

The last version that comes with RM 1.85 seems to have been not quite fixed. It has this line:

[CmdParmInit=PickInitializer(0,,0) PickInitializer(1,,1) PickInitializer(2,0,1)

mattg568 · Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 80

Capn Trips · Expert Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990

mattg568 · Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 80

After putting that into the ini file and loading the upgrade it would only turn the dvd player on and off.

Wouldn't it be better that I can just simply open the upgrade, change the protocol from DVD to MIX, re-insert that third part back into the protocol parameters, switch the remote to the 10820 and be done with it?

It actually works that way.

The Robman · Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:31 pm Post subject:

There's assembler code inside the Pioneer DVD executor that decides when to send the 1-part signal and when to send the 2-part signal. It makes this decision based on a bit in the OBC binary.

This was fine as long as Pioneer stuck to their own rules regarding the 2 versions of the signal, but they didn't, so UEI changed the executor to use 2 variable bytes and they removed all the logic that I mentioned earlier from the executor. The 2-byte executor is more flexible but the device upgrade code is twice the size.

The DVD2 selection was invented for people who have the later version of the UEI executor in their remotes, it's purpose was to let people such as yourself open an upgrade that uses the old DVD protocol and then simply change the selected protocol to DVD2.

You are absolutely correct that you could format the same upgrade using the MIX protocol, but you would need to know when to select the two different Pioneer formats for each button, as KM and RM won't do it for you.

Assuming that you don't know when to select one format over the other, you would need to learn all of the buttons from your DVD remote and use the learned data to tell you which format each button uses.
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Capn Trips · Expert Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990

mattg568 · Joined: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 80

KM uses Microsoft Excel, right? I don't have Microsoft Office. Nor am I willing to pay for it just to get at one program. I would either get a Harmony, or more likely stick to my OEM remotes.

Capn Trips · Expert Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990

OK, then. Since you seem to have solved this by using the Pioneer Mix protocol, then the lack of Pioneer DVD is not that big a deal.
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Remotes: OFA XSight Touch, AR XSight Touch
TVs: LG 65" Smart LED TV; Samsung QN850BF Series - 8K UHD Neo QLED LCD TV
RCVR: Onkyo TX-SR875; Integra DTR 40.3
DVD/VCR: Pioneer DV-400VK (multi-region DVD), Sony BDP-S350 (Blu-ray), Toshiba HD-A3 (HD-DVD), Panasonic AG-W1 (Multi-system VCR);
Laserdisc: Pioneer CLD-D704.
Amazon Firestick
tape deck: Pioneer CT 1380WR (double cassette deck)
(But I still have to get up for my beer)