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JSB



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:50 am    Post subject: Making an upgrade, any suggestions? Reply with quote

Check the post here for the background info:http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=4892#4892

So did I HAVE to set up another divice?

I could not get around the problem of the Audio/0135 looks like this in Divices4.exe:

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Type: Audio
Code: 0135

Sub-group: RCVR

Protocol: NEC-28
Protocol Id: 00 5A
Fixed Data: 28 B4 49

Dev1: 210
Dev2: 109
Dev3:

Brands:
Onkyo, Toshiba
-----------------------------------------------------------------

But when I learned the "DVD" input key and looked it up in IR.EXE I got this:

Protocol: NEC1
Dev1 : 210
SubDev: 108
OBC : 140
Hex Cmd: CE
EFC : 060

So based on the Sub-Device being off I could not make one complete upgrade.

Any suggestions or is this how it is?

Thanks,
JSB
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of those Onkyo devices use a combination of subdevices 108 and 109 as well as a combination of NEC1 and NEC2.

I don't remember what the NEC-28 used by Audio/0135 is. But based on the fact that it mostly works for these devices, I assume it is the version that does NEC1 for most keys and NEC2 for a few others.

There are a variety of different ways to combine subdevices 108 and 109. The simplest is with KeyMoves from another setup code. A combo method is probablty better in this case was already covered in that thread you linked.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

where is the devices and devices4 sheets that i read about , i cant seems to find them anywhere.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahhh my bad ..... thanks .. thats for the 15-1994 remote only correct .. will check out the file and see if anything I can use for my URC-8810 ....

thanks again,
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neil P wrote:
thats for the 15-1194 remote only correct
No, I believe that most, if not all, of the stuff in device4.xls should apply to your remote as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnsfine wrote:
I don't remember what the NEC-28 used by Audio/0135 is. But based on the fact that it mostly works for these devices, I assume it is the version that does NEC1 for most keys and NEC2 for a few others.

That's pretty much it. The NEC ($005a) executor is explained here. A parm of hex 28 in binary is 00101000, so bits 3 and 5 are set.

When B5 is set, it means the signal uses two device codes (eg, 210.109).
When B0 is clear, it means the signal is NEC1 (as opposed to NEC2).
When B3 is set, it means that NEC2 will be used for repeatable buttons (ie, VOL+/-, CH+/-, REWIND and F.FWD).
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnsfine wrote:
A combo method is probablty better in this case


Ok I have tried the following and have had no luck(nothing works Surprised ):

NEC1 Combo
NEC2 Combo
NEC1 2DEV Combo
And the Onkyo HT-R500 upgrade

But the 0135 setup code works (minus the DVD input).
Code:
Type:   Audio
Code:   0135
   
Sub-group:RCVR
   
Protocol:   NEC-28
Protocol Id: 00 5A
Fixed Data: 28 B4 49
   
Dev1:   210
Dev2:   109
Dev3:   


The 'Fixed Data' is not the same as in the NEC1 nor NEC2 protocols.
Is this the problem?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JSB wrote:
But the 0135 setup code works (minus the DVD input).

The 'Fixed Data' is not the same as in the NEC1 nor NEC2 protocols.
Is this the problem?

Probably. Try using NEC1 with your Device and Sub-Device, and enter '28' as the Parm value.
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