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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:13 pm    Post subject: Other Settings: T Device -- What is that all about Reply with quote

I'm just starting using 6012ex3_3 and most things are clear. But I am confused by the first 6 Other Settings. Like T Device is set to VCR. I don't understand what it means to set the "transport device" to VCR. For example, I have two transport devices.

Something is missing in my head. Can someone put it there,

please -- Vincent
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the extender's Readme.txt
Quote:
DEVICE SELECTION:
=================

There is no normal device selection. There is no VPT. There is no
Transport Punch Through. There is no Home Theater Mode.

Instead there is a device selection mechanism by key set that has a
superset of the power of all the above; But you must define macros to use
and customize it.

The device keys and HT key have no built in meaning. You must define
macros to have any device selection at all.

There are 57 commands that can be used in macros to control device
selection. Each command specifies the key set and the Device Index that will
be used for keys in that set. For example P_TV says the TV device will be
used for keys in the "Pip" set.

There are 7 Key sets: Pip, Menu, Channel, Volume, Transport, Other and
Temporary(X). There are 8 Device Indexes: TV, CBL, VCR, DVD, AUX, SAT, CD
and RCVR. There is one additional command X_Cancel.

To achieve simple device selection (no VPT, TPT or HT) you would put a 6
command macro on each device key, for example the TV device key would have
the macro:
P_TV; M_TV; C_TV; V_TV; T_TV; O_TV

The 6012w is missing the AUX and CD physical keys; But it still supports
all eight devices. You can use any keys you want for the device selection
macros (and you can use device keys for other purposes).

To achieve VPT, replace the V_ command within the macro for each device
that should have VPT enabled with the command from the device to which VPT
should be set. For example, to enable RCVR VPT on your DVD, the DVD key
macro might be:
P_DVD; M_DVD; C_DVD; V_RCVR; T_DVD; O_DVD

If you want full VPT (same V_ selection in all device selection macros) you
can save some macro memory by omitting all the V_ commands. You can set the
initial V device using IR. That remains as the V device as long as no V_
commands specify a different V_ device.

To achieve crude TPT (such as most of the UEIC remotes) replace the T_
command within the macro for each device that should have TPT enabled with
T_VCR. For example, your TV key macro might be:
P_TV; M_TV; C_TV; V_TV; T_VCR; O_TV

To achieve dynamic TPT (similar to the URC7800). Omit the T_ command from
the macro for each non Transport device and include it in the macro for each
transport device (VCR, DVD etc.). When you select a non transport device,
the T keys will all remain associated with whatever transport device was
most recently selected.

To achieve Home Theater, put a device selection macro on the Home Theater
key. Include specific P_, M_, C_, V_ and T_ commands to select your HT
settings. To duplicate the UEIC version of HT mode, omit the O_ command from
the HT macro so that the O keys remain associated with whatever device they
were associated with before. (UEIC HT mode seems to support the Power key
only as a special macro. With this extender the Power key is either an
ordinary macro or an ordinary O key, whichever you programed it as).

Shifted keys all go into the key set containing their unshifted
counterpart. For example SHIFT-Stop is in the T set. Phantom keys are in
the O set. Device keys are in the O set; But most people will put macros
on device keys. If a key is a macro, it doesn't matter which set it is in.
The set only matters for KeyMoves and for keys defined by setup code.
.
So, setting the T_VCR means that the transport keys (play, pause, ffwd, etc) will use the setup code assigned to the VCR device. V_RCVR would make the volume keys (+/- and mute) use the RCVR device.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gfb107 wrote:
So, setting the T_VCR means that the transport keys (play, pause, ffwd, etc) will use the setup code assigned to the VCR device. V_RCVR would make the volume keys (+/- and mute) use the RCVR device.
You are helping me understand the Macros tab. I already understand that. My question was about the General tab. In particular the Other Settings on the right. There are six settings, one for each key class. Each is associated with a device button. It is that association that I don't understand.

Vincent
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kruskal wrote:
gfb107 wrote:
So, setting the T_VCR means that the transport keys (play, pause, ffwd, etc) will use the setup code assigned to the VCR device. V_RCVR would make the volume keys (+/- and mute) use the RCVR device.
You are helping me understand the Macros tab. I already understand that. My question was about the General tab. In particular the Other Settings on the right. There are six settings, one for each key class. Each is associated with a device button. It is that association that I don't understand.

Vincent

Ahh, those are the default devices for each key set when the extender is first activated, and will be used unless changed in a macro (or macro-like function, such as DSM or L/DKP).
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think "initial" is more understandable than "default". Once any T_ command has been issued by any macro, the initial value is gone and has no further effect until you deactivate the extender.

The feature is only useful if you have only one of a given functional type (most often one volume device) and then you could leave those commands out of all macros.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnsfine wrote:
I think "initial" is more understandable than "default". Once any T_ command has been issued by any macro, the initial value is gone and has no further effect until you deactivate the extender.

The feature is only useful if you have only one of a given functional type (most often one volume device) and then you could leave those commands out of all macros.
Got it. That explains the volume comment in the ReadMe, which I really didn't understand.

So, since I have two devices of every class, it doesn't matter how those defaults are set.

Thanks to all -- Vincent
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