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The Robman
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| ElizabethD wrote: | | I wish Rob explained why you can't use this. |
It's apples and oranges. The Panasonic Combo protocols let you combine different device codes using the regular Panasonic protocol. This device doesn't use the Panasonic protocol at all, it uses the Panasonic2 protocol. If this second protocol had been discovered on a non-Panasonic remote, it wouldn't even have Panasonic in it's name.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Doesn't Panasonic combo2 let you combine many sub devices in the Panasonic2 protocol? Or is it a second type of Panasonic combo? |
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gfb107
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| The Robman wrote: | | krisdz wrote: | Rob
I need reload the remote with new RAMAddr=$FF00 setting or it is minor.
Thanks again
Kris |
No, you're fine, that parm just helps IR disassemble the protocol code correctly. |
It'll also help RM generate a correct protocol upgrade.
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ElizabethD
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| whompus wrote: | | Doesn't Panasonic combo2 let you combine many sub devices in the Panasonic2 protocol? Or is it a second type of Panasonic combo? |
Panasonic Combo2 and Panasonic Combo let you combine several subdevices all using Panasonic signals. Panasonic2 signals/protocol is different, and appears to be for one device. That extra zero byte might belong to the command but it might belong to the subdevice. I don't know.
| gfb107 wrote: | | It'll also help RM generate a correct protocol upgrade. |
what will??
BTW, RM has both versions of Panasonic2, official and hacked since RM1.23. Now, there is a bunch of other signals lurking in the projector I worked with. Jon Armstrong put it in IRP notation and I never knew what to do with it really.
krisdzThanks a lot for the file and the ref. But I can't download the file, the link doesn't seem right.
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johnsfine
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:40 am Post subject: |
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| gfb107 wrote: | | It'll also help RM generate a correct protocol upgrade. |
what will?? |
Having correct values in the line(s) of the RDF that distinguish the old S3C80 chips from the new S3C80 chips.
(KM doesn't use the RDF). |
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krisdz
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Rob,
I have a question for you.
In one of you comments you mentioned.
| Quote: | IIRC, this remote supports macros
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The remote actually do not have macro button(s).
How I can create macro and which button I shall use for it execution?
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krisdz
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Liz,
Which file? I uploaded two. |
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ElizabethD
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Hi! The one from your post Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:23 pm, containing the IR signals for the arrows array. and if you have some of those computer mode function, I just want to peek how they compare.
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The Robman
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| krisdz wrote: | | Hi Rob, I have a question for you. In one of you comments you said this remote supports macros. The remote actually do not have macro button(s). How I can create macro and which button I shall use for it execution? |
You don't need a macro button to program a macro.
Follow these instructions to program a macro on the remote itself:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/manuals/rs-l.shtml?15-1994#macros
You can also program macros using IR, just click on the MACRO tab and it should (hopefully) be obvious.
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What I understood from the help doc. The button assign to the macro is active in any device mode. I’m not using the Amp device so I was hoping that I can use all the available buttons under the Amp device mode. Well, life will be to ease if that will be the case.
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The Robman
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| krisdz wrote: | What I understood from the help doc. The button assign to the macro is active in any device mode. I’m not using the Amp device so I was hoping that I can use all the available buttons under the Amp device mode. Well, life will be to ease if that will be the case.
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Kris |
I'm not totally clear on what you're asking, so I'll just try to describe how macros work to see if that answers your question. If it doesn't, please try to re-phrase your question.
A macro is global, which means it's active in all device modes. In other words, if you program a macro to the (let's say) POWER button, everytime that you press the POWER button, regardless of whether the remote is in DVD mode, TV mode, or whatever, the macro will execute. The device mode that the remote is in when the macro starts is still the valid device mode. So, if the first step in a macro is the MENU button (for example) and the remote just happened to be in TV mode when the macro started, the first step would be the TV's MENU function. If the macro is used on an other occassion and the remote just happened to be in DVD mode when the macro starts, the first step would be the DVD's MENU function. To avoid any confusion, most users include device buttons in their macros, so they know for sure which functions will be executed.
Bottom line, even though you have an unused device button, it doesn't mean that you can use the buttons in that device mode for macros.
There is a special protocol that we use in the JP1 world called DSM, which stands for Device Specific Macro. This is a tool that lets you program a macro that will only be active in a specific device mode. This would let you program a macro to the MENU button (for example) in RCVR mode that would only execute when the remote is in RCVR mode. If the remote is in DVD mode and you press MENU it would send the DVD's MENU signal.
If you wanted to dedicate an entire device mode to macros, it might be possible to create an upgrade based on the DSM special protocol so that all of the buttons in that mode execute macros, but you would require expert assistance to get this working, so let us know if this is what you had in mind.
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krisdz
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Rob,
Sorry for the confusion.
The DSM is what I need. Do you have some directions?
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I have a question for the experts
Which remotes are S3C8+?
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The Robman
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| krisdz wrote: | I have a question for the experts
Which remotes are S3C8+?
Kris |
Almost all of the brand new OFA remotes are JP1.2.
All remotes prior to those latest remotes were S3C8+ going back to models like the URC-8811 and 15-2104. Prior to that they used the slightly older version of the S3C8 chip.
So, there are too many S3C8+ remotes to list, but a recent sampling of US based OFA remotes are: URC-8811, URC-8910, URC-9910, URC-9960, URC-6131, etc.
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