JP1 Remotes

[MPSAN]

Hello ALL:

I have a lot working and just want the final upgrade to work...if there is ever a final. I just am not sure of the changing X, etc as sometimes it means shift or x shift. I have looked everywhere and IR Special Prot makes this so easy...if not using a DEV key.

I want LKP to work on my DEV keys so that TV will set remote to TV and a LKP will turn it on. The same is true of CBL in that I want LKP to turn on the TV and set the TV input to CBL. I keep the CBL box (DCT6412) always on.

LKP is working but I can not get it to work on a Device key. I am confused by the following as to what X_TV maans.
TV button = "X_TV; Phantom1;",

In addition, what is this...

use the X_ temporary device
selection command

In order to do that, just create an L/DKP macro on a
key move in any device mode and use the X_ temporary device
selection command for that device.

For example, put a LKP macro on the Phantom1 in the TV mode

Also, what is O and V...is it Set_Other_Keys and Vol keys?

The device selection won't change unless
you explicitly include the permanent device selection commands
(O_TV, V_TV, etc.)



This would be useful if you want put two different actions on a
device button. In order to do that, just create an L/DKP macro on a
key move in any device mode and use the X_ temporary device
selection command for that device.

For example, put a LKP macro on the Phantom1 in the TV mode, then
create a macro on the TV button = "X_TV; Phantom1;", and then the
LKP macro will run in any device mode except for the ones that you
have key moves on the TV button (IR.exe lays out all key moves
before any macros, and the extender executes whichever it finds
first. You may need to drag a key move or a macro in IR.exe to
trigger this sorting.) The device selection won't change unless
you explicitly include the permanent device selection commands
(O_TV, V_TV, etc.)
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[greenough1]

X_TV is a temporary setting of the TV device. when X_TV is executed, it's like you just did a short key press (SKP) of the TV device button. You use this in a macro when you want the remote keys to behave the way they behave when you have selected the TV device.

So X_TV;Phantom1; will select the TV device and Phantom1 is a device specific macro (DSM) that then executes a bunch of stuff that you need to set up the TV remote buttons.

the prefixes O_, V_, etc. are for groups of the keys. V_ is the volume keys, T_ is for transport keys, etc. By the way all of this is in the extender document.

I think I have my remote doing pretty much what you want to do. A short key press on a device key selects that device (and sets up the remote buttons to operate that device as well as allowing for any volume or transport punch-throughs). A long key press executes a macro that can select a number of different devices, and perform operations on them. e.g. LKP on CBL does this:
select RCVR and switch to input V1 and unmute it
select TV and switch to input HD
make sure CBL box in turned on
Leave the remote so that volume is controled by RCVR (V_RCVR), channels are controlled by the cable box (V_CBL), transport buttons are controlled by the cable box (actually a DVR) (T_CBL), other buttons (menu, guide, info) are controlled by the cable box (O_CBL).

Hope this helps a bit.

Best,
jeff

[MPSAN]

[MPSAN]

Could it be that I have no idea what a X_TV is because I am still running EXT2 on my 15-2117? I have read everything and just don't "get it".
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[MPSAN]

I know and I even used the IR SPcl Prot Fns tab. Very nice and easy.

If Bound Device is AUX (which is where my X10 is) and the Key is say 0,
SKP is dev_aux;5
lkp is dev_aux;5;ch+
if I hit zero it just selectd 5, as expected. If I hold 0, then the lamp goes on. All OK.

IF I do the same, but the DEV and KEY are set to AUX, it will not work. I just want to make it select 5 when I hit AUX and turn the lamp on if I do a LKP on AUX. In fact the reason this is important is that I want to use this method for VCR (RPTV) and CBL (6412). Long will turn on TV and set input and short will only select device. I just do not know what I am missing.

Still do not see what a X_TV, or X_CBL means.

Thanks as always,

Dave...it is so close to working!

[greenough1]

Ok. I can answer what X_TV does. Within a macro, it is a temporary device selction. So for my example above where I need to select an input on the tv and unmute the RCVR, that'd look like:

X_RCVR;Mute;1;X_TV;FWD; where 1 for device RCVR selects input V1 and FWD for device TV selects input HD.

Note that the remote will exit this macro with the TV device selected as it's last. If you wanted, say CBL, to be selected at exit, then put X_CBL at the end.

Best,
jeff

[MPSAN]

Thank you, but where do you enter X_TV, etc? I ask as I do not see it come up in any IR or RM pulldown, etc.

Somehow, DEV AUX and Key AUX did not seem correct.
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[greenough1]

Are you useing an extender? If so then this is part of the extender. If you're not using an extender, then you're looking at incorrect instructions.

An extender is the only way to get macro functionality onto a dev key and in particular LKP on to a dev key.

Best,
jeff

[MPSAN]

Yes, I am using Extender 2 for the 15-2116/2117. Do I need EXT3?

I just do not see where to select an X_TV, or X_AUX, etc.

[greenough1]

I'm not sure and I don't have the computer with my remote stuff with me. If you don't see the pull down in IR, then I believe that it's not there. Maybe post in the extender forum your last question. Sorry that I didn't solve your problem.

jeff

[Capn Trips]

[greenough1]

And just to carry that out a bit further, the DEV_device key selection should be in a drop-down menu within IR assuming the appropriate rdf's have been found?

I too apologize for adding to the confusion. I saw X_device and I new what that was since I'd used it to extend my 8811.
jeff

[MPSAN]

Thank you so much everyone. As I said, I used the IR Special Prot tab and did build a LKP...it just would not work on the AUX button. In fact I had defined SKP as dev_aux:5 and LKP as dev_aux;5;ch+ (this turns X10 lamp on).

That does work, as long as it is NOT on the AUX key. I could make it the AUX device and then have it put on the device Phantom1 key, but my 0167 device is built in so have no way, in RM, to create a device phantom 1....or at least I do not know how to do this.

I will try further...I just want AUX (my X10) and VCR and TV buttons to power something on and switch inputs during LKP of the device button. At any rate, now I know why I can not find the X_DEV. Thank you all for helping and I will try again
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