iMon revisited

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hansdegit
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iMon revisited

Post by hansdegit »

A while back, I asked Rob to create a device upgrade for an Soundgraph/iMon proprietary protocol. The complete history is here:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4626&

Rob succeeded, and I am still very happy with his efforts:

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Upgrade Code 0 = 68 00 (Cable/0000)
FF 00 11 4A E3
End
and the protocol upgrade...

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Upgrade protocol 0 = 01 FF (S3C8+) iMON Power (PB v3.11)
42 89 11 8B 11 00 00 DC 02 55 00 DC 03 F6 02 55
02 55 12 16 18 1A 6C 02 87 36 02 4C 04 58 C3 56
C5 03 87 15 1E F6 01 4C E0 C3 E0 C3 4A EF 6A E8
1C 16 F6 01 4C 1C 16 F6 01 4C C6 F8 F0 3C F6 01
58 F6 01 0A 7B D0 AF
End
In the meantime, UEI have made an upgrade for all the available functions on that remote.

Here's my problem:
I only need the Power function. All the other functions to control my PVR are present in a Hauppauge 45-button upgrade, which is smaller.
I tried to key-move the power function onto the power button. Simple.

NOT. It just doesn't work.

In the case of the UEI upgrade, I can see why, because all the functions are three byte hex codes. My URC 7562 accepts two-byte commands max.

However, the upgrade that Rob created (including a protocol upgrade), uses only 1 (one) byte command, hex E3. I would expect to be able to program a key-move onto the power button.

What am I doing wrong?

My workaround is this:
I stripped the UEI upgrade only to include the power button, mapped it on an unused (CD) device button and created a macro which triggers the CD-power button.

This works, but it is a bit dissatisfying, because I don't understand why a simple key-move won't do the trick.

Any clues?

Edit:forgot to mention that I use the URC-7562 Extender.

Edit2: I'm at work right now, will post the IR file this evening (GMT +1)
Last edited by hansdegit on Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:18 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Post by Capn Trips »

As is always the case, a look at your IR file would probably help any troubleshooting effort(s). Please post it (and any relevant device upgrades) to the diagnosis area of the file section and provide a link to it here, and somenone will take a look.
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Post by vickyg2003 »

Wow there is a lot of digging required to get the information we need.
In the meantime, UEI have made an upgrade for all the available functions on that remote.
And just what device is that on?
I tried to key-move the power function onto the power button. Simple.
NOT. It just doesn't work
No, I would have been very suprised if that had worked. The Hex and EFC's will be specific to an protocol executor, (the pid). When Rob wrote the protocol, he expected the data in a specific form (the hex). He told KM or RM the way he wanted the hex formatted. UEI obviously is using a different format.

Where is the KM or RM file for the upgrade?
What is the built in device code?
Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.

Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
hansdegit
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Post by hansdegit »

I understand the confusion. When you're digging into a problem, you somehow expect others to know what you've run into and the hassle involved. I'm sorry about that...

Anyway, I posted my IR file right here:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=7024

Vicky, there is one KM file that represents the UEI upgrade:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=4879

Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance.
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Post by vickyg2003 »

Why are you using that huge protocol, instead of the small one that Rob wrote for you?

I had to use 2 bytes of HEX, 4A E3 to get the keymove to work on my remote, but I don't think yours requires two bytes. I'm wondering if there is a restriction on the POWER key on your remote, although an extender usually lifts those restrictions.
Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.

Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
hansdegit
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Post by hansdegit »

Well, the huge protocol seemed to be the only one that worked..

I'll try again. Thanks for your help.
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