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Wiljan
Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 6
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:20 am Post subject: Dreambox remote and Philips RC6 |
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Hi
I have a Dreambox remote URC-39730 B02-00 (JP1) which works fine for my Dreambox and for the old TV (RC5) I used a philips forlong time...
Now I have bought a new TV Philips 221T1 and it seems it do use RC6 codes (I have looked with a scope on a IR reciever)
I have tried the different codes for Philips TV listed in the manual without any luck (gues RC6 are not in the list in the remote)
After a bit of reading it seams that some new code need to be programmed to the remote
So I have build a LPT <=> JP1 cable and it seems to work with the IR.exe
When I read my remote I get Signature OUKAOUK1
I also found the OUKAOUK1 (Dreambox V3).rdf and I can see the Device Buttons
Now I need a little help to find the RC6 for the Philips device and how to add this into the IR program
Please advice
Thank you
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 7073 Location: Florida |
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Wiljan, you are going to have to create an upgrade for your Phillips TV.
To do this you'll need to use
Remote Master (RM) a java application
or
KeyMaster (KM) an excel application
Many Philips TV's use RC-6 device 0.
Here is an RM file, Philips TV RC-6 that might help you get started.
1) open the file in RM,
2) change the remote to be the Dreambox,
3) assign the functions to the keys you want
4) copy and paste the device upgrade from RM to IR
5) upload the IR to the remote _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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Wiljan
Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 6
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:13 am Post subject: |
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vickyg2003
Ok I have been playing a bit ... not sure I do it total correct
Looks like the code for the Philips should be 2010 and the Protocol for RC6 should be 0x00 0x58
The IR tx I need for the Philips are like this
This is how it looks from org philips remote (Works)
http://www.tech2net.dk/stuff/RC6_virker_power.jpg
This is how it looks from Dreambox remote (Does not work)
http://www.tech2net.dk/stuff/Dream_TV_button1_2010.jpg
So either I do something wrong or the Phililps are not RC6
Any commnets?
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 7073 Location: Florida |
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Now I have bought a new TV Philips 221T1 and it seems it do use RC6 codes (I have looked with a scope on a IR reciever) |
The one that is labeled works, doesn't look like what I know as a RC-6. It has more bumps than I'd expect with Rc-6 and the repeat style is wrong for rc-6. What makes you think that this is the working signal is Rc-6. _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 7073 Location: Florida |
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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I finally figured out how to zoom in on the picture, and this sure looks like a NEC1 0.189 obc 1 EFC 185
If you use the lookup tool at the top of the page, you can find what the EFC's might be by looking at other TVs that use the NEC1 0, 189 command set.
If you need to read these from the scope picture, remember that the numbers are LSB
NEC1 looks like this
IRP notation: {38.4k,564}<1,-1|1,-3>(16,-8,D:8,S:8,F:8,~F:8,1,-78,(16,-4,1,-173)*)
After the big On and the Big Off, the next 9 bumps are the Device, the next 8 bumps are the subdevice, the next 8 bumps are the function and the last 8 bumps are the complement of the funciton.
The itty bitty bumps are 0, wider bumps are 1,
numbers are read from right to left, LSB.
From looking at the picture I decoded this picture
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device subdevice function
00000000 10111101 1000000 0111111
device= 0
subdev =189
function =1
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We don't have any other Phillips upgrade that uses the NEC1 0,189 format, so it will really help others if you include all the functions from your original remote and post your upgrade in the files area. _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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Wiljan
Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 6
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Vickyg2003
I did some search after I saw the header was 9mS and you are absolutely right it's NEC-1 protocol
After a lot of scope grabs and some hex sodoku I have finaly got all buttons to work
Works on Dreambox remote URC-39730
Signature: OUKAOUK1
Add support for Philips TV 221T1
(should work for 201T1 and 231T1 as well)
Only strange thing why Philips do use NEC-1 protocol...
(Are this tv made by Philips at all?)
Code: 2010 Protocol: 5A Fixed Data: 20 FF 42
Upgrade Code 0 = 17 BC (TV/2010) Philips_221T1 TV (RM v1.97)
5A 00 FE FE 7E C3 20 FF 42 7D 57 97 17 67 A7 27
47 87 07 CF F7 DF E7 C7 7F DD EF BF AF B5 2F 0F
6E AD 4F CD 4D 8D 0D 5F 3F A5 F5 B7
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:00 am Post subject: |
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We need your upgrade FILE to be posted in the TV section so that other people can use it on any remote.
Be happy that the phillips TV isn't using the RC style codes. Those codes don't like to be placed in macros. With a NEC protocol key presses are much more reliable. _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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Wiljan
Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 6
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:03 am Post subject: |
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File uploaded under TV Philips 221T1
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:15 am Post subject: |
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Wiljan wrote: | File uploaded under TV Philips 221T1
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Yes, but you gave me the output, not the KM or RM file. So nobody can use this without totally reverse engineering your document. What we need is the RDMU file that you saved from remote master. You've given us everything except the file we need. _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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Wiljan
Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 6
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:42 am Post subject: |
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Sure you need that file, I forgot it in the zip file
I added it and uploaded it againg...
Now there are 2 with the same name.. can't how I delete the old?
Does it require a moderator to delete it?
Still a biginner ... 1.day yesterday
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vickyg2003 Site Admin
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:58 am Post subject: |
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Wiljan wrote: | Sure you need that file, I forgot it in the zip file
I added it and uploaded it againg...
Now there are 2 with the same name.. can't how I delete the old? |
You can delete or update your own files. If you navigate to the file, you'll see an x in the upper right corner. This x lets you delete the file
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Still a biginner ... 1.day yesterday
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And already a contributing member of the forum. Congratulations on your success! _________________ Remember to provide feedback to let us know how the problem was solved and share your upgrades.
Tip: When creating an upgrade, always include ALL functions from the oem remote, even if you never plan on assigning them to a button. Complete function lists makes an upgrade more helpful to others.
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Wiljan
Joined: 21 Dec 2009 Posts: 6
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:11 am Post subject: |
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Old file deleted, thx for all the help
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greenough1
Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 659
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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And here's the link to Wiljan's file:
TV Phillips 221T1 |
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