Alice Home TV box, Italy (Pirelli protocol 56.3k)

[pacia79]

Hi all,

I need some help create the .bin for the Slingbox. I was able to learn the signals from the remote of my Alice Home Tv Box (Italy) and transfer them to IR.exe. The results have been posted at this link:

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=6904

The problem is that the IR protocol is "Phase Encoded (RC type)" and I don't know how to handle it!...If anyone can help me create the bin file with Remote Master, it would be great!!

Thanks a lot for helping!!

Andrea

[The Robman]

Hi Andrea,
Could you do me a favour please, could you learn the same button 2 or 3 times in a row and post the resulting IR file.

Also, if there are other buttons on the original remote, could you learn all of the others please.

Also, I'm seeing exactly 2 repeats of each button. Are you pressing and holding the buttons when you learn them or are you just doing a short press?

Here's what I've got so far.

freq: 56.3 kHz
1 = +213 -213;
0 = -213 +213;

101000110100000010 -92868 101000110100000010 -130782 = 1
101000110100000101 -92868 101000110100000101 -130782 = 2
101000110100000110 -92868 101000110100000110 -130782 = 3
101000110100001001 -92868 101000110100001001 -130782 = 4
101000110100001010 -92868 101000110100001010 -130782 = 5
101000110100001101 -92868 101000110100001101 -130782 = 6
101000110100001110 -92868 101000110100001110 -130782 = 7
101000110100010001 -92868 101000110100010001 -130782 = 8
101000110100010010 -92868 101000110100010010 -130782 = 9
101000110100010101 -92868 101000110100010101 -130782 = 0
101000110100010110 -92868 101000110100010110 -130782 = Power

I suspect that we have 10 bits of fixed data, followed by an 7-bit command code (OBC) and a 1-bit toggle.

The 2nd leadout time (ie, the -130782 time) is the max that a JP1 remote can store, so the real off time might be larger.

[pacia79]

Hi Rob,

Thanks a lot for helping. In regards to your requests:

- I posted a new set of learned signals. They are classified as TV and not cable. I hope that this different approach do not cause issue.
This time I learned all signals (including guide, menu,...).
I don't really need all those buttons beside the power and the channel numbers.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=6924

- When you see 2 or 3 signals repeated for a channel, it is because I hit the button more than one time. I did that just to make sure that the learning remote was able to catch the signal

- I am not familiar at all with JP1. If you have a link to a discussion that explain what to do next, it would be great. I assume that I have to use your information on Remote Master to build the .bin file, but I am not sure what to do.

Thanks a lot again,

Andrea

[Capn Trips]

- When you see 2 or 3 signals repeated for a channel, it is because I hit the button more than one time. I did that just to make sure that the learning remote was able to catch the signal

When learning, do not "hit" the button (i.e. do not "press and release") while the 8910 is learning. Press and HOLD the button you are trying to teach from, until the LCD display on the 8910 says "SUCCESS". THEN release the button you were holding down.

[pacia79]

Thanks Rob,

Unfortunately I "learned" the signals when I was in Italy last week. Now I am back to the US and I can't repeat the exercise until I come back there.

Please let me know if I can do something with the information I have.

[The Robman]

I can see what's up with that last bit now, it's the complement of the previous bit.

Andrea, you don't need to do anything with the info that I posted, I was just storing it in the thread for posterity.

I have created an upgrade that should work your STB here:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=6925

There were 4 functions learns to the "L" buttons on the 8910, what were those functions?

[pacia79]

Thanks Rob! That's awesome!

Those L1-L4 are 4 buttons with different colors (red,yellow, blue and green) that are used to navigate the guide. My box in the US has the same buttons. There are not that critical but they are useful as shortcuts when using the guide.

[The Robman]

Let us know if it works OK.

[pacia79]

Hi Rob,

I created the Bin and uploaded on the Slingbox. Now, the only problem I have is that both IR blasters are currently pointing to a VCR and not to the CABLE BOX. I will have somebody passing by my house and moving one of the IR blasters in the next week or two.

I will let you know if it works as soon as I test it. If it works correctly, I will post the .bin file on JP1.

In the meantime, for your records, the box is a PIRELLI HY100 used by Alice Home TV in Italy.

Links:
http://www.pirellibroadband.com/en_IT/b ... 100STB.pdf

http://alicehometv.alice.it/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Home_TV

Thanks for helping!

[mathdon]

This protocol business is getting absolutely fascinating! I'm working my way back through the Protocol Decodes forum and this is the third protocol I've looked at. But the fascinating thing is that it is the same as the TDCn protocol of this thread but with a different frequency (56.3k instead of 38k) and a different half-burst time (213 instead of 315). Since my decode doesn't check the frequency, I've just changed the half-burst time to 213 and, lo and behold, this shows up as TDC1.

I'll mod the code to look for both half-burst times and call this one PIRELLIn - or is ALICEn better?
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Graham

[smb2700]

Greetings all, I take this post because I am studying the protocol of this stb, I'd like some information.

From the file created by pacia79:

ProtocolParms = 1 8 26
FixedData= A1 D0

What do the data ProtocolParms?
FizedData A1 D0 in binary are:
10100001 11010000
but the data from the remote it says:
11010 101000

Why use A1 and not A0?

Also in irp notation as you can describe this protocol?

Thank you all