URC-8811 - Need help with newer devices, please!

mephitical · Post by **mephitical** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:50 pm

I may be in the wrong place, but hopefully someone can help or at least point me in the right direction. I'm using a 8811 (My well-loved Cinema7 died years ago) and cannot get it to really work with some newer additions to our setup. It seems to me I was able to find individual button codes at one point for a non-supported APEX DVD player. By entering these codes one by one, I did not use up the limited memory in the remote by "learning" the IR signal. Even with a master clear, I cannot get the remote to learn certain buttons. Here are the items I'm having problems with:

SCEPTRE X32 LCD TV (uses Sony codes, but will not accept certain buttons like Aspect Ratio)

Philips Upconverting DVD Player 5982 (uses Philips DVD codes but has strange things like Resolution mapped to Pause and will not learn "pause")

Samsung HT-P38 Home Theater (I'm able to get most options to work on this with Samsung DVD codes and learning the rest, but was wondering if there was a catch-all code)

We had a Philips SRU6061 remote lying around that does a slightly better job with these, but still not perfect, and I really liked the 8811 better.

Thank you for any help or suggestions!

Post by **vickyg2003** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:36 pm

I think you are asking for EFC's to do keymoves for your devices.

If you download RemoteMaster and the java support libraries, you can look at various upgrades for similar equipment from the file section here.

It would also help if you could provide the 4digit setup codes that partially work.

You might want to invest in a cable, it sure makes this stuff easier when you can SEE what's going on.

kupakai · Post by **kupakai** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:48 pm

You might want to consider getting a JP1 cable and learning how to use Remote Master and IR, since you will be able to reprogram your remote to work with all those devices better. There are upgrade files that should work for all your devices on this site:
Sceptre TV
Philips DVD 5982
Samsung HT-P38

However, if you don't want to get the cable, you can still use those file to get the EFC numbers for all the functions that are not in the remote by default. You can use those codes as advanced codes to program in the functions. See here for directions.

BTW, what are the setup codes you used to get partial functions for your devices?

mephitical · Post by **mephitical** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:16 am

This is fantastic - thank you so much! I'm probably not going to get the cable, mostly because of cost - even as minimal as the cable is, it's out of our current budget. I'd have to check on the codes, but I'm pretty sure the Sceptre works with 0000 for Sony.

mephitical · Post by **mephitical** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:23 am

In looking through the files you linked to, the HT-P38 file is not txt but rmdu, and it doesn't seem to have any three-digit codes like the other two files. Do you think I can get in touch with radio shack to get the numeric advanced codes?

Capn Trips · Post by **Capn Trips** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:37 am

These are the functions and EFCs from that rmdu file.
power 185
open/close 149
disc skip 085
tv\video (dimmer) 245
DVD 249
Tuner 057
AUX 121
1 169
2 167
3 171
4 164
5 168
6 166
7 170
8 026
9 154
remain 181
0 090
cancel 122
prev 251
stop 059
play/pause 187
next 123
PLII mode 180
vol up 155
vol down 027
channel up 219
channel down 091
PLII effect 052
subtitle 054
menu 150
info 214
audio 182
up arrow 056
down arrow 120
left arrow 216
right arrow 248
enter (circle center) 184
return 244
mute 025
step 024
repeat 198
EZ view 186
Test Tone 148
zoom 058
slow (MO/ST) 152
tuner memory (P.Scan) 088
sound edit 116
logo 021
digest 053
slide mode 250
dsp/eq 212
sleep 217

mephitical · Post by **mephitical** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:53 am

Wow. You guys are fantastic! I'm going to try these this weekend - I'm so excited!

kupakai · Post by **kupakai** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:03 am

mephitical wrote:In looking through the files you linked to, the HT-P38 file is not txt but rmdu, and it doesn't seem to have any three-digit codes like the other two files. Do you think I can get in touch with radio shack to get the numeric advanced codes?

The numbers you see in the text files are actually OBC, not EFC, which is what you need to use for advanced codes. You can open those files (and the RMDU files) using Remote Master to get the EFC, but I listed copied them below. Also use DVD/0539 setup code for the Philips DVD player, and as you said you can use TV/0000 for the Sceptre TV. However, there isn't a matching protocol built in for the Samsung HT-P38 built in. You will need to get or make a JP1 cable to upload the protocol in the the remote before using the advanced codes. I had assumed you had already found a setup code that partially worked for the HT-P38 on your remote before, and hadn't checked what's built in to the 8811. Did you find one that the device response to? Otherwise, you may have to just use the learning function to program that device.

Sceptre:

0 = 142
1 = 018
2 = 014
3 = 016
4 = 012
5 = 019
6 = 015
7 = 017
8 = 013
9 = 146
100/- = 223
Aspect = 000
CC = 032
Down Arrow = 063
ENTER = 046
EPG = 035
EXIT = 031
FAV Down = 076
FAV Up = 080
INFO = 239
Left Arrow = 051
Menu = 002
MTS = 140
Mute = 083
Picture = 077
PIP Audio = 157
PIP Position = 111
PIP Size = 221
PIP Source = 115
PIP Video Swap = 159
Power = 079
R = 175
Right Arrow = 044
SLEEP = 224
Sound = 049
Source AV = 078
Source PC = 082
Up Arrow = 067

Philips DVD:

0 = 018
1 = 010
2 = 034
3 = 026
4 = 242
5 = 234
6 = 002
7 = 250
8 = 082
9 = 074
power = 244
menu/disc = 132
display/info = 058
up = 208
left = 224
right = 216
down = 200
ok = 176
title/return = 022
setup = 030
prev = 011
next = 019
play = 051
stop = 139
usb = 193
subtitle = 088
audio = 064
zoom = 117
repeat = 170
repeat a-b = 219

mephitical · Post by **mephitical** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:29 am

Thank you for the additional explanation. I did find a code that works partially with the HT-P38, I just don't have it handy. It was missing a lot of functions though, and was having a hard time learning any. I may ultimately get a new remote after all this since some buttons are sticky; I've been really happy with the OneForAll line in terms of form factor, value and comfort - do you have any recommendations for a current model that's not too expensive?

Evan_s · Post by **Evan_s** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:22 pm

the 8820 would be the current 8 device replacement for it but it has a different layout for the buttons that doesn't seem too popular with some members. Depending on how many devices you need there may be other options via OEM remotes like the atlas remotes.

kupakai · Post by **kupakai** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:11 pm

mephitical wrote:Thank you for the additional explanation. I did find a code that works partially with the HT-P38, I just don't have it handy. It was missing a lot of functions though, and was having a hard time learning any. I may ultimately get a new remote after all this since some buttons are sticky; I've been really happy with the OneForAll line in terms of form factor, value and comfort - do you have any recommendations for a current model that's not too expensive?

I'd like to know the setup code you found that partially works.
The URC-8910 is pretty close to the 8811. You can find a reconditioned on at Overstock.com right now, but they tend to come and go. Amazon also lists some stores that sell it.

URC-8820 is more current and has a lot more built in setup code and more memory. I like it for those reasons, but as far as functionality goes, it's small (which some people might like), with small non-backlit buttons, and a bit flimsy.

I also like the Atlas 5 remote, especially the new one with backlit buttons, but it's a remote that some cable companies give out, and not easy to find (esp. the backlit ones).

mephitical · Post by **mephitical** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:35 pm

One of the things I like about the 8811 is the backlit keys, so I might search for the Atlas you metioned (We only have 4 devices to control: TV,DVD,VCR,HT). I'm out of town this weekend, but when I get back I'll try to track down the code and post here.

mephitical · Post by **mephitical** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:36 pm

Urg, just got back. Turns out I was confusing my 8811 with my crappy Philips SRU6061, which does recognize some of the HT-P38's commands. As far as I know, the 6061 does not support advanced codes. Of course, I can't even find any mention of it on Philips site... I can't get the 8811 to recognize the HT-P38. If I ever did, I don't remember how.