Sharp LD-26SH3U LCD TV

[Hockey9]

1. Device: Sharp LD-26SH3U
2. Type of device: LCD TV
3. Year: 2005
4. JP1 Remote model: urc-9910
5. JP1 user? Yes
6. Still have original remote? No
7. Checked the file section? Yes
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? Yes
9. Partially working setup code? Yes 0093 works the volume and channels but no Dpad or menu access.. I borrowed a Harmony remote from a friend and was able to get menu and some pip function.
10. Learning remote question?

[johnsfine]

9. Partially working setup code? Yes 0093 works the volume and channels but no Dpad or menu access.. I borrowed a Harmony remote from a friend and was able to get menu and some pip function.
10. Learning remote question?

So you were able to learn from the Harmony to the 9910 a few functions that don't work in TV/0093.

You can download to IR.exe and decode those learned signals. Based on that result, we would know at least how to integrate those signals in an upgrade, plus where to look for any signals still missing, and maybe I could identify the whole code set and give you all the missing signals.

[Hockey9]

I can get started with teaching the 9910 the harmony commands and saving the config set in ir.exe. I was able to get the manual online. I bought this as a store demo and there was nothing included. If I do get my hands on the OEM remote. I will post it as well..
Thanks

[Capn Trips]

Perhaps this is a silly question, but you say you checked the file section. Did you check for exclusively your model of Sharp TV, or did you try the several Sharp LCD and HDTV upgrades that are there for different model numbers?

[Hockey9]

I did try the other 3 or 4 codes.. For some reason they were listed as cable devices.. I did assign them to a cable device but they did not seem to work at all. I have a question though, how can I create a .txt file to share with keymap master? Or can I post the .ir file that I saved in ir.exe?

I have an incomplete set except for some pip, direction pad and some direct input keys ..If I can post the saved file from ir.exe, that may help .

[Capn Trips]

Your question is unclear.

What kind of .txt file are you trying to create?

KM saves its upgrades as .txt files already (unless you're not using the "SAVE" button on the KM Setup page, but are instead saving the entire KM spreadsheet (File>Save) - which is a HUGE waste of memory.

IR files can be saved as .txt files (you have to force this, as IR normally saves its files as .IR files) but these are NOT interchangeable with KM files by any stretch of the imagination.

Can you state your question with more detail?

[ElizabethD]

Hockey9,

You can download to IR.exe and decode those learned signals. Based on that result, we would know at least how to integrate those signals in an upgrade, plus where to look for any signals still missing, and maybe I could identify the whole code set and give you all the missing signals.

Without the learned signals, for which John Fine asked, we can only guess. But to continue guessing and attempting to help more, Sharp TV setup code 0093 is a single byte protocol. Chances are pretty high that this recent TV needs to use Sharp Combo (official), as is, from KM or RM. If the functions you have trouble with require different subdevice than what 0093 provides, it can't work.

I did try the other 3 or 4 codes.. For some reason they were listed as cable devices..

Do you mean 3-4 setup code numbers or 3-4 upgrades from the file section here? Assuming the latter, chances are pretty good that the codes from the existing files will work when device TYPE on the General tab matches KM upgrade. The reason people used cable is because most buttons are available in that mode.
Make sure to select correct remote, 8910/9910 when using KM or RM.

Your question is unclear.

What kind of .txt file are you trying to create?

I suspect he's trying to get some decoded learned signals from IR over to KM or thinks that to upload here it needs to be in KM format.

Hockey9, It can't really be done easily, and there is no need. Just save the .IR file containing the signals learned from Harmony (see Learned signals tabb) and upload to diagnosis so John or someone can see what you're after.
Or, tell us what you see on the learned tab under protocol, device, subdevice, OBC and Hex.

[Hockey9]

https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=3278

I will have to admit that I am kinda weak in the file creation area when it comes to creating and transferring .txt files. I do not understand the process and I might be using the wrong terms. I mostly have been using .txt keymap master importing and clipboarding them into ir.exe.
I am strong at key moves and macros. It is because of this group that I was able to get discrete power on/off for my toshiba hdtv which was not available before. This group deserves praise for all that is offered here. There is a Compusa nearby where I may be able to get access to an oem remote and with my mx-500, I can learn all of the remaining commands. Kinda of a long shot but I may be able to get them to let me do it. I have to pick up some dvd-r's anyway. I guess it cant hurt to ask. Thanks so far for all of the help. In the meantime, I will go back and retry the available sharp lcd codes and see if I missed anything.

[johnsfine]

From statements earlier in this thread, I got the idea that this device might use some mixture of device codes or even protocols (Kaseikyo as well as Sharp).

But those learned signals are all the ordinary Sharp protocol, device 1, codes with typical EFC numbers.

There is a good list of EFC numbers for TV/0093 at
http://www.hifi-remote.com/cgi-bin2/ueic.cgi?TV_0093

I see those match your decoded signals:
242 = Menu
204 = Display (Info)
094 = PIP On/Off
096 = PIP Move
095 = PIP Swap
109 = Prev.

I'm surprised you didn't get better results with just TV/0093. Maybe you will with TV/0093 and that advanced code list.

What specific functions are you still missing? This is a very common code set, so I probably could find any missing functions in posted JP1 upgrades or in CCF files.

[Hockey9]

Thanks for the reply.. I did not try to key move any of the existing commands. I guess that i saw that the power and vol did nt work and moved on.. I will have to try to keymove using some of the available lcd .txt files .

I will let the board know.. Now its off to work.
Missing:

dpad all directions and d pad enter.
display
input
input special keys tv,av and pc ( these may be difficult)
return
exit
view mode
picture
cc
freeze
sleep ( dont care about this one)
pip on/off
size/move (pip)
swap (pip)
select (pip)

[ElizabethD]

Hockey9, you mentioned earlier that the existing upgrades don't work, but did not answer everything. So, let's back up a bit.
How did you determine that? Did you upload an upgrade from the file section through KM/RM to the remote and it did not work? And where does the issue of making or not making the keymoves come in?

The reason I ask, is because given all above, I'm beginning to suspect that you are trying to use EFCs you see in KM or RM and force those EFC values into an upgrade you're making, perhaps using Sharp protocol. If this is true, read on, otherwise ignore what follows.

If the upgrade you're making forces Sharp protocol, the single byte kind, as in the 0093 setup, it won't work. Because those upgrades use a Combo protocol (and possibly Kaseiko). The combo, 2-byte variety, is used for devices 1,13,17,30, perhaps others, so the EFC values you're looking at are doomed.

If you insist on using 0093-type setup code, here's what you can do for gathering few more codes:
> Take 2-3 of those upgrades into KM or RM.
> On the Functions sheet write in the Notes column what byte 2 says (subdevice). That's those 1,13 etc numbers.
> On the Setup sheet change the protocol from Sharp Combo to Sharp.
> On the Functions sheet all the EFCs will change to the numbers I think you're trying to use. But they will only be valid for those functions which originally have "1" in byte 2 (device 1).

I'm in no way suggesting that this is the simplest approach, since using the OBC numbers is simpler, but there may be an important reason for all above (which I don't get).

Considering your few learned signals and those EFCs that John gave you, most of the stuff from the upgrades in the file section should work. Actually, from your list, the only missing one will be dpad (what's that? the thing under the cover? arrow keys?) and the unclear to me "input special keys" line, but if it means tv, av, pc, the codes are in the upgrades.

Advance apologies if I've misunderstood the whole thing.