Dual Panasonic DVD Discrete ON/OFF - How???

spimly · Post by **spimly** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:06 pm

Hi,
I have a Panasonic DVD player and a Panasonic DVD recorder. When I set up my system, I had to make a setting change (address??) to the Panasonic recorder so that its remote would not also activate the Panny player. How do I find the new discretes for the Panny recorder?

Thanks.

Post by **The Robman** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:42 pm

According to this file, there are three device codes that can be used in some Panasonic DVD's and DVD-R's

DVD1 Panasonic 176.0 (default) also UEIC setup codes DVD_0632 or DVD_0490
DVD2 Panasonic 176.16
DVD3 Panasonic 176.32

The OBC/EFCs for the discrete codes, etc will be the same for all three codesets, it's just the device codes that change.

Sljivovica · Post by **Sljivovica** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:48 pm

UEIC-Codes for Panasonic DVD-players/recorders Addresses 2 and 3 are available as well:
DVD 1010 for address 2
DVD 1011 for address 3

Best Regards,

Sliv

Post by **The Robman** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:00 pm

Thanks Sliv.

spimly · Post by **spimly** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:22 am

You guys are great!

Im just starting out with JP1 and have a 8910 on order along with a simple JP1 cable. I plan on using the RM utility once I get everything. I just purchased a URC-200 remote that I need to program discrete codes into so I thought this would be a cheaper alternative to buying their URC-850 which is computer upgradeable similar to JP1 (I guess??).

Standard story - my wife was sick of six remotes on the coffee table. I said I thought I could reduce it to one but there was a price - hours of me researching the issue, finding deals, and cursing my ignorance.

I have found codesets on this site for my JVC VCR, Sony TV, Yamaha AV receiver and two Panny DVDs. I believe I am out of luck though with my DishNetwork box (EchoStar 4900) as far as On/Off discretes but it would be great if someone would prove me wrong!

Thanks again.

Post by **The Robman** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:30 am

spimly wrote:I believe I am out of luck though with my DishNetwork box (EchoStar 4900) as far as On/Off discretes but it would be great if someone would prove me wrong!

It's rare for STBs to have discrete power codes, so people tend to just leave them turned on all the time. We do have a tool in the JP1 world that will help you simulate discrete codes for TOAD devices called "toadtog", but it's quite an advanced tool and not the easiest to figure out how to use.

Capn Trips · Post by **Capn Trips** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:19 am

spimly wrote:Im just starting out with JP1 and have a 8910 on order along with a simple JP1 cable. I plan on using the RM utility once I get everything. I just purchased a URC-200 remote that I need to program discrete codes into so I thought this would be a cheaper alternative to buying their URC-850 which is computer upgradeable similar to JP1 (I guess??).

I know next to nothing about the URC series remotes, other than that they are pretty darned expensive compared to a JP1 remote, and I cannot imagine them having greater capability than a JP1 remote to do what you want/need from a remote.

Having exposed my bias, I would suggest that if you need discretes, I believe that the "PVR" function behaves like a "discrete on" for the Dish boxes. Even if your box may not be a PVR (is it?) it's worth a try. Then a "discrete off" could be achieved by making a macro "PVR"-"Power".

If none of that works, you can still achieve "discrete" functionality with your JP1 remote (although not transferable to your URC via learning) by using the extender and the ToadTog protocol, in which you can generate virtual "discrete" functions, using a small portion of the remote's EEPROM to keep track of the state of your Dish box. A perfect reason to return the URC remote for a nice refund and just use the 8910 as your primary remote once you've customized it accordingly!

Capn Trips · Post by **Capn Trips** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:22 am

The Robman wrote:We do have a tool in the JP1 world that will help you simulate discrete codes for TOAD devices called "toadtog", but it's quite an advanced tool and not the easiest to figure out how to use.

...and, if I understand the URC remotes correctly, this functionality would not be transferable to a URC remote - certainly not by learning, unless the URC has software that allows you to create virtual discrete functions.

spimly · Post by **spimly** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:21 am

Understood about the "toadtog" and URC. No, my Dish unit is a simple single dish receiver not a DVR. Once Im up and JP1 running, I'll give the PVR function a try anyway. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky...

My reasoning for getting the URC is so I can have all of the functionality of my original remotes (and more with the help of JP1) along with the customizable button names. I am not aware of any JP1 remote that allows custom button text for up to ten devices (my ignorance???). While pricier ($85 delivered compared to the 8910's $28 delivered), the URC does give me that feature.

Don't get me wrong though. I believe the OFA remotes are the best combination of functionality and price that there is - hands down. And the fact that you can program a $20 remote with a computer and control 8 devices with it makes it just incredible (thanks totally to this group!).

Thanks again.

Capn Trips · Post by **Capn Trips** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:58 am

spimly wrote: My reasoning for getting the URC is so I can have all of the functionality of my original remotes (and more with the help of JP1) along with the customizable button names. I am not aware of any JP1 remote that allows custom button text for up to ten devices (my ignorance???).

I suppose for the casual user of the HT system that's an issue, but I for one, NEVER look at my remote. I'm too busy watching the plasma screen and the enormous boobs - I mean BOMBS exploding (yeah, that's it) So I could care less about what the button names are. After a few days, you know where each button you need is, and who cares what the label is?

Having said that, I understand the irresistible power of the WAF

spimly · Post by **spimly** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:14 am

Sljivovica wrote:UEIC-Codes for Panasonic DVD-players/recorders Addresses 2 and 3 are available as well:
DVD 1010 for address 2
DVD 1011 for address 3

I can't see where either of these is available in my 8910. Does that mean I must use JP1 to import one of them?

Where can I see the codeset for these two?

Thanks

Post by **The Robman** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:29 am

You can see them in the file linked below...

The Robman wrote:According to this file, there are three device codes that can be used in some Panasonic DVD's and DVD-R's

DVD1 Panasonic 176.0 (default) also UEIC setup codes DVD_0632 or DVD_0490
DVD2 Panasonic 176.16
DVD3 Panasonic 176.32

The OBC/EFCs for the discrete codes, etc will be the same for all three codesets, it's just the device codes that change.

spimly · Post by **spimly** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:36 am

I'm sorry but I must be thick. The link simply brings up a downloadable copy of the quote you refer to.

I want to know how to get my 8910 to use one of these alternate sets.

Thanks.

Post by **The Robman** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:39 am

Open the file using KM or RM and read the notes.

spimly · Post by **spimly** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:48 am

Rob,

The link you are have specified is to a text file called "Alternate Devices for DVD's and DVD-R's" that is a 258 byte file with the text:

Alternate Devices for Panasonic DVD's and DVD-R's

There are three device codes that can be used in some Panasonic DVD's and DVD-R's

DVD1 Panasonic 176.0 (default) also UEIC setup codes DVD_0632 or DVD_0490
DVD2 Panasonic 176.16
DVD3 Panasonic 176.32

I don't see how I can open that in RM.

So either I am extremely dense (not out of the question for a noob) or this is not the link you think it is.

Help.