Quick answer needed: JP1 CABLE

broderp · Post by **broderp** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:56 am

Can I make a JP1 cable using Catagory 5/6 network cable? I have accsess to some cool flouresent green cable for free, but was wondering if the fact they are shielded, twisted pair will make a difference.

I also am looking for a source for the 6 pin connector to use with this cable.

Thanks.

(Oh, I want to build one at lunch, which is in 1 hour or so for me, hense the "hurry"

Post by **The Robman** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:11 am

Yes you can use CAT5 cable, any old cable would do, there are no special requirements.

As for the IDC, I have no idea where you would find one in the next hour, so I recommend that you simply cut a larger IDC down to size (ie, like the kind you might use for a hard drive cable). I believe there are some documents on this in either the Hardware or Interfaces folders.

broderp · Post by **broderp** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:10 pm

The Robman wrote:Yes you can use CAT5 cable, any old cable would do, there are no special requirements.

As for the IDC, I have no idea where you would find one in the next hour, so I recommend that you simply cut a larger IDC down to size (ie, like the kind you might use for a hard drive cable). I believe there are some documents on this in either the Hardware or Interfaces folders.

I was thinking of buying a fairly large quantity of these (I have resources at work as well as locally) and perhaps using the cat5 cable, create several (20-40) cable assemblies for those who may have all the parts but this connector (thanks again

)and offer them at cost (my labor would be free) to help the "cause".

I don't need the connector within the hour, I was just curious. Cutting a IDE cable down proved to be an exercise that took much longer than I wanted, with several mistakes, and I'm fairly proficient with hand tools and working with such things. (spend 4 years as an engineering tech making prototype test fixtures) I also only managed to find a short 10 inch ribbon cable in our lab, so having 3-4 ft will be a blessing.

On a side note and a LONG SHOT, I was thinking of POSSIBLY meeting with our AMP rep or TYCO rep during one of our regular meeting and see how much it would be to have a RJ45 TYPE connector made custom that would allow us to use the standard crimp and cutting tools for networking but instead of the usual 8 pin end, have a matching dual row connector with 6 pins. (the extra 2 will be crimped, but not brought thru to the outside.)

Post by **The Robman** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:08 pm

If you want to buy the 6-hole IDC in quantity, you can get it from www.mouser.com where the part number is 649-71602-306

Mark Pierson · Post by **Mark Pierson** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:24 pm

broderp wrote:On a side note and a LONG SHOT, I was thinking of POSSIBLY meeting with our AMP rep or TYCO rep during one of our regular meeting and see how much it would be to have a RJ45 TYPE connector made custom that would allow us to use the standard crimp and cutting tools for networking but instead of the usual 8 pin end, have a matching dual row connector with 6 pins. (the extra 2 will be crimped, but not brought thru to the outside.)

IIRC, AMP is now Tyco.

Anyway, since I work for one of their competitors, I can tell you that is really a LONG SHOT!

You're probably looking at custom tooling charges of several thousands of dollars before you even buy the first connector. Not to mention if the proposed volume isn't in the tens or hundreds of thousands, they probably wouldn't even be interested.

The part Rob mentioned is an IDC connector and could easily be used to terminate Cat-5 cable with a little patience (I've used them with telephone wire myself). They're already available and dirt cheap.

broderp · Post by **broderp** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 2:34 pm

Mark Pierson wrote:
broderp wrote:On a side note and a LONG SHOT, I was thinking of POSSIBLY meeting with our AMP rep or TYCO rep during one of our regular meeting and see how much it would be to have a RJ45 TYPE connector made custom that would allow us to use the standard crimp and cutting tools for networking but instead of the usual 8 pin end, have a matching dual row connector with 6 pins. (the extra 2 will be crimped, but not brought thru to the outside.)
IIRC, AMP is now Tyco.

Anyway, since I work for one of their competitors, I can tell you that is really a LONG SHOT! You're probably looking at custom tooling charges of several thousands of dollars before you even buy the first connector. Not to mention if the proposed volume isn't in the tens or hundreds of thousands, they probably wouldn't even be interested.

The part Rob mentioned is an IDC connector and could easily be used to terminate Cat-5 cable with a little patience (I've used them with telephone wire myself). They're already available and dirt cheap.

Your right, Im not sure what I was thnking. I asked and nothing seems to exist like it either. Darn....

jptheripper · Post by **jptheripper** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 9:39 am

on an odd side note, i found an old cable laying around. It was a pci slot with 2 usbs (from an old comp) that conencted directly to the board with a 10 pin (5x2) connector. This fit perfectly on my jp1 of my RS 15-2116 remote.

a thought