I've uploaded my file here
I have problems with results after uploads. It may be a cable issue, but see what you think. First, if my batteries are brand new, I have to have them all in to upload. When they die a bit, I have to remove one to upload.
Second, often after an upload, some functions (usually discrete) will not work or do the opposite of thier intent. For example, my TV LKP discretely turns on the TV and RCVR and sets inputs. Sometimes after an upload, if the devices are on, it will turn the tv off but leave the RCVR on. I can usually get it fixed after a few uploads.
Third, I created a macro (L2) turn turn off the VCD and DVD. It is not working although it looks fine. It is called in the SAT keymove. Have I run out of memory or something?
Any suggestions would be welcome.
Dave
Strange behavior (uploads results and discrete functions)
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I had many problems with the ToadTogs as well. They would work for a while, then if I did not use the remote for a few days it's like they would get all out of synch.
At this point this is beyond my expertise. I looked at your file and in my limited knowledge it seemed fine.
Maybe one of the experts could comment.
I had many problems with the ToadTogs as well. They would work for a while, then if I did not use the remote for a few days it's like they would get all out of synch.
At this point this is beyond my expertise. I looked at your file and in my limited knowledge it seemed fine.
Maybe one of the experts could comment.
Paul
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I'm not familiar with the 8910 extender implementation, but do know ToadTogs can be tricky. Since the remote keeps the current "state" of the device within the ToadTog, a simple misfire of the ir stream could put things out of sync (the remote thinks the device is on when in fact it never received the signal, etc.). I'd say your problems are likely caused by things getting out of sync.
I've also never gotten a definitive answer to this question, so maybe one of the extender experts can jump in here. If you reset the remote (i.e. via an IR up/downnload) and then reactivate the extender, do the ToadTogs reset to a known state, or maintain their last setting?
What I've gotten into the habit of doing after each reset of my remote is to turn off (manually) ALL my devices. Then I cover the IR LED so the signal won't get to my devices, and press my All Power OFF button, which sets all the TT's to a known state. I'll repeat this if I notice devices getting out of sync. I also have some fail-safe key moves setup to force a given device to a known state. For example, my TV fail-safe sets the TV ToadTog to "Force OFF" and issues the TV Power command. I just repeat this keypress until the TV is actually OFF.
I've also never gotten a definitive answer to this question, so maybe one of the extender experts can jump in here. If you reset the remote (i.e. via an IR up/downnload) and then reactivate the extender, do the ToadTogs reset to a known state, or maintain their last setting?
What I've gotten into the habit of doing after each reset of my remote is to turn off (manually) ALL my devices. Then I cover the IR LED so the signal won't get to my devices, and press my All Power OFF button, which sets all the TT's to a known state. I'll repeat this if I notice devices getting out of sync. I also have some fail-safe key moves setup to force a given device to a known state. For example, my TV fail-safe sets the TV ToadTog to "Force OFF" and issues the TV Power command. I just repeat this keypress until the TV is actually OFF.
Mark
Thanks guys. So, you're saying that there is really no way to avoid an out-of-sync state. Just different way to fix it.
I've been reading and, as usual, it created more questions. My toadtogs for on and off involve two keymoves, one for each. Should there be another keymove to track the device's state or is this tracked in the two toadtogs?
Dave
I've been reading and, as usual, it created more questions. My toadtogs for on and off involve two keymoves, one for each. Should there be another keymove to track the device's state or is this tracked in the two toadtogs?
Dave
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There's no foolproof way of avoid out of sync, short of locking up the remote and only allowing yourself to operate it and the equipment. 
The ToadTog tracks the state (if setup properly). Out of sync can happen for a variety of reasons.
Think about this: you turn on your system and everything is working as advertised. Now, your significant other walks over and shuts off the TV (which only has a power toggle command on the remote).
What's going to happen when you press your All Power OFF button?
The remote will check the TT and see that's it's currently ON, so it will send the power toggle command as defined in the ON-to-OFF part of the TT. Voila! The TV turns on, while the rest of your devices turn off, because the remote has no way of knowing the TV was manually turned off. Here's where you need a fail-safe, a divorce lawyer, or maybe both!
Power discretes help in this situation since an OFF is an OFF, but if your device doesn't support them, it's basically up to you to ensure things are in sync because the remote can't.
To be honest, I had to remove the extender with TT's from my main remote in the living room. The kids were constantly turning on and off the various devices by hand, so nothing was ever in sync. I got tired of hearing "Dad, the TV's off but the DVD's on!".
The ToadTog tracks the state (if setup properly). Out of sync can happen for a variety of reasons.
Think about this: you turn on your system and everything is working as advertised. Now, your significant other walks over and shuts off the TV (which only has a power toggle command on the remote).
What's going to happen when you press your All Power OFF button?
The remote will check the TT and see that's it's currently ON, so it will send the power toggle command as defined in the ON-to-OFF part of the TT. Voila! The TV turns on, while the rest of your devices turn off, because the remote has no way of knowing the TV was manually turned off. Here's where you need a fail-safe, a divorce lawyer, or maybe both!
Power discretes help in this situation since an OFF is an OFF, but if your device doesn't support them, it's basically up to you to ensure things are in sync because the remote can't.
To be honest, I had to remove the extender with TT's from my main remote in the living room. The kids were constantly turning on and off the various devices by hand, so nothing was ever in sync. I got tired of hearing "Dad, the TV's off but the DVD's on!".
Mark