New Inteset / Insignia / Sanyo / Nexus JP1 remote

toddby · Post by **toddby** » Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:38 am

There's a version of this remote, with different button colouring, being sold on ebay at the moment - US$13.99:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281296364762 ... 1423.l2649
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261436650691 ... 1423.l2649

Branded 'AOC' model #67100BA1-017-R they are presumably not backlit but unlike some other ebay deals these have free international shipping to countries other than the US.

http://i.imgur.com/pwQa1j3l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PYECYYPl.jpg

mdavej · Post by **mdavej** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:35 pm

Can anyone confirm whether the Insignia NS-RC06A-11 is backlit? Perhaps this is just an updated version of the 05A which is not backlit.

toddby · Post by **toddby** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:47 am

The Insignia NS-RC06A-11 is NOT backlit. See http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewt ... 253#101253 in this thread.

mdavej · Post by **mdavej** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:05 pm

Just discovered a source for backlit:

Inteset INT-422. Even comes with a sheet of button labels.

http://shop.inteset.com/multi-function- ... ing-remote

roadking00 · Post by **roadking00** » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:25 pm

mdavej wrote:Just discovered a source for backlit:Inteset INT-422. Even comes with a sheet of button labels.

http://shop.inteset.com/multi-function- ... ing-remote

Just ordered one ($24.07 shipped) this will be my 1st JP1 programmable remote to get me started with this new venture

I really liked the looks of it and all the features I basically need, hopefully I will be ordering 3 more in the near future so long as I get the hang of programming with RM.....Next purchase is the cable....

mdavej · Post by **mdavej** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:13 am

Just posted RDF/Map/Image for the Inteset INT-422:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... e_id=12748

kalidomra · Post by **kalidomra** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:16 pm

Anyone have an Extender for INT-422?

Horkonaut · Post by **Horkonaut** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:07 am

mdavej wrote:Just posted RDF/Map/Image for the Inteset INT-422:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... e_id=12748

I am a total beginner at JP1.x.

I recently bought a Inteset INT-422. I have a JP1.x cable. When I use the above RDF in IR.exe and Download From Remote, I get "Bad checksum at address $0200. Expected $06 $F9, but found $05 $FA." Based on a few google searches, I played around with the RDF and changed one of the Checksum lines from "^$200:$202..$3FF" to "^$200:$208..$3FF". That seemed to make that error message disappear but I have no idea whether that change is going to cause problems in the future. Any opinions?

One other thing - I ran the jp1xserial.exe test and I "passed." On IR.exe, the Check Interface also passes. However, on IR.exe, when I check the Driver Status, I get the following message: "The serial/parallel driver is functioning properly. Delcom USB Error: Unable to find Delcom device driver." I am assuming that because I have never used JP1 (as opposed to JP1.x), that this error message is fine - i.e., I don't need a Delcom device driver because I'm not using JP1. Just checking though.

I'm looking forward to playing around more with my new remote. I appreciate all the work that was done setting up the infrastructure, so thanks everyone.

3FG · Post by **3FG** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:12 pm

As you have surmised, the error message about the Delcom driver is literally correct, but it isn't significant to you. I do think you would be better served to use RMIR rather than IR.exe. It's been 4 years since any features have been added to IR.exe, and development is only being done on RMIR.

The first byte of a UEI checksum is the XOR of all the bytes in the stated range. The second byte is the bitwise complement of the first. When our software downloads from the remote it calculates the checksum and compares it to the one stored in the remote. Here the read checksum and the calculated checksum are different by 1-- $06 versus $05. I expect that changing the checksum range in the RDF provides a coincidental and fragile workaround. When you upload to the remote, the checksum which will be written into memory is likely to be incorrect. Then, when the remote comes out of communication mode, it will inspect the checksum and if it doesn't match it will do a full reset.

I don't know why the downloaded data doesn't match. Are you starting from 981 reset?

Horkonaut · Post by **Horkonaut** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:16 pm

3FG wrote:I don't know why the downloaded data doesn't match. Are you starting from 981 reset?

Thank you for the RMIR tip, I will look into that.

I had done a factory reset of the remote but I was following the instructions in the Interset manual which was a 977 factory reset. I did the 981 reset and there were no checksum errors. Thank you.

mdavej · Post by **mdavej** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:00 pm

There are lots of new devices in the Inteset that get wiped out with a 981 reset. They probably recommend the less severe 977 reset to preserve those. No matter for us JP1ers as we can load/re-load any devices we want.

Horkonaut · Post by **Horkonaut** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:52 pm

I've played around with my Inteset INT-422 remote and have learned a lot in the process (I'm now using RMIR). I've also come to the conclusion that I would like to play around with an extender for my particular setup. I am assuming that I can't just grab an extender for a remote that looks like mine (i.e., here: http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... cat_id=150). I would have to wait for an extender specifically made for the Inteset INT-422 (or make one myself). Is that correct?

Can you brick a remote permanently by trying to create extenders for it?

Post by **vickyg2003** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:42 pm

Extenders are remote specific. And yes you can brick a flash based remote if you misstep when writing an extender. I bricked a couple trying to do a jp1.3 extender

The old eeprom remotes were harder to kill, although I killed a few of those when writing simple protocols where I burned out the ir emitter by going into an infinite loo .

gfb107 · Post by **gfb107** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:51 am

The Insignia, Nexus, and Sanyo are internally identical (other than the blacklight and labelling).

I expect the Intset INT-422 is also.

Can anyone verify whether it is or not?

Would be nice to be able to use the same extender for all of these.

Horkonaut · Post by **Horkonaut** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:40 am

gfb107 wrote:The Insignia, Nexus, and Sanyo are internally identical (other than the blacklight and labelling).

I expect the Intset INT-422 is also.

Can anyone verify whether it is or not?

Would be nice to be able to use the same extender for all of these.

I'm just a beginner but when I bring up Raw Data on RMIR for the Inteset INT-422, it shows Signature: 34943494, Processor: Samsung S3F8, Interace: JP1.3.

The extender works on Signature: 31473147.

I don't know if that is enough of a difference to make the extender not compatible though.