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Using keymove on COMM SKIP button with URC-8910
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:24 am
by juststeve
I've loaded the TiVo Series 2 upgrade to KM. The Buttons sheet shows @ com/skip for function 'guide'. IR's Key Move says VCR | Com/Skip = VCR VCR 0618 150 guide.
But uploading to remote and using com/skip from either device doesn't fire anything.
Re: Understanding Key Moves
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:17 am
by gfb107
juststeve wrote:But uploading to remove and using com/skip from either device doesn't fire anything.
I don't understand what you mead by "uploading to remove" or "from either device". What two devices?
Please place a copy of your IR file in the Diagnosis Area, either
here or at
Yahoo, then come back here and post a link to it. If you use Yahoo, make sure to read the directions about posting links to files at Yahoo, linked in my sig.
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:52 am
by juststeve
remove = remote...either device = Sat or VCR - Key Move shows the device as VCR/0618
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=1230
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:41 am
by The Robman
IIRC, the COMP SKIP button is not programmable using keymoves or learning (without an extender), so pick another button for this function.
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:35 pm
by gfb107
Also, note that for the SAT device, you have chosen setup code SAT/1142, for which there is no keymove defined on the com skip button, so that wouldn't work even if you keymoves worled on the com skip button.
Another point of interest is that you chose an old (almost 2 years!) TiVo upgrade file that isn't the best one for your use. I would suggest using the
TiVo Master File instead. This won't require a protocol upgrade, so will use less memory on your remote. Also, because the URC9910 has the more recent TiVo support, you can add functions using just advanced codes, you don't need a full upgrade.
BTW, if I were trying to find a place to assign the
guide function, I would choose the
Guide button. I would use the TV/VID button for the
Live TV function, and I would put the
List function on the
Menu button, and
Menu function on
shift-Menu, just now that I have the List function available, I rarely use the Menu function.
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:05 pm
by juststeve
gfb107 wrote:
BTW, if I were trying to find a place to assign the guide function, I would choose the Guide button. I would use the TV/VID button for the Live TV function, and I would put the List function on the Menu button, and Menu function on shift-Menu, just now that I have the List function available, I rarely use the Menu function.
Thx for the pointer to a more uptodate file...and what key does the 9910 use to 'shift'?
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:19 pm
by Nils_Ekberg
juststeve wrote:...and what key does the 9910 use to 'shift'?
The Set button on the lower right
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:46 pm
by The Robman
juststeve wrote:and what key does the 9910 use to 'shift'?
The same key as every other remote in the JP1 world, the one that you use to program the remote (ie, SET, SETUP, MAGIC, P, etc)
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:02 pm
by juststeve
I guess i was figuring shift was a runtime function while 'set' is specific to programming mode.
set key on 9910 involves 2 key punches
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:38 pm
by TheBlueMan
Unlike my 8810, to use the set key as "shift" on the 9910 the set key needs to be pushed two times in a row. (It seems that the on-screen programming has changed things a bit.)
Re: set key on 9910 involves 2 key punches
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:59 pm
by Mark Pierson
TheBlueMan wrote:Unlike my 8810, to use the set key as "shift" on the 9910 the set key needs to be pushed two times in a row.
That only applies to an unextended remote when using the
numeric (0-9) buttons. A single press of set is all that's need for any other button.
That only applies to an unextended remote when using the num
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:49 am
by TheBlueMan
Thanks Mark.
Yeh, because my TV has 7 video inputs to scroll through, I set the discrete direct access codes on the number keys 1 to 7. So your point about how the double shift only applies to the numbers is a good one.
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:45 am
by zaphod7501
Here's a trick that might work to eliminate the double "set" for numeric keys. If you have an unused or more convenient button you could set up a macro to assign the "set" command to it. This gives you an easier button to press for "shifted" functions than the recessed "set" button and (I think) removes the double press requirement (only applies to the physical "set" key not the "set" function) for numeric keys. (I don't have the remote set up right now to be able to test this -- I always move the "set" function to another key whenever possible for shifted function usage.)
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:40 am
by The Robman
I believe you would need to include 2 presses of SET for it to work with the numeric buttons. I don't know what would happen if you used 2 presses of SET with the other buttons, it might also work.
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:31 pm
by zaphod7501
I just tried it (on my free "broken" 8910 courtesy of BlueDo) and found that Rob is right (surprise?) but reassigning my "Guide" button to "set";"set" with a macro does work for my other shifted buttons as well as the numeric keys.
Since using a shifted numeric button within a macro only requires you to "add shifted" I had hoped reassigning "set" within a macro would have a similar effect.