Can't get 9960 Extender to run

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harryhoudini
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Can't get 9960 Extender to run

Post by harryhoudini »

After many searches and following the extender instructions, I almost think I have a problem with the remote. I only made one macro on the original setup, I saved that setup and used the extender install to convert it. I uploaded that new extender file to the remote and the remote is fine. I activate the extender (tv, format) and it blinks 4 times and then fades off. I try to turn it on (move it, press buttons) and no response. If I put the original file back on, no problem. If I put the extender file back on, no problem... when I activate it, it is a problem.

What does the install process do? I don't need the original setup on the remote... can I just use a default extender file?

Why does the remote not work?

http://www.scottberry.com/jp1/CurrentSetup.txt
http://www.scottberry.com/jp1/ExtenderSetup.txt

Anyone have any info? Is the remote possibly bad?
harryhoudini
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Post by harryhoudini »

Found the Extender base confirg file, uploaded it and no problem turning on the extender. Any help as to why my extender file isn't working?
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Post by pgk »

Looking at the ExtenderSetup.txt you posted originally one problem is the macro you have on the power button:

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TV;Power;Audio;Power;HT
Because the extender allows nested macros this will cause a loop and hence the remote will appear to hang. (That is when the macro on power is executing, it gets to the first "Power" which effectively starts the power macros again, which then gets to the first "Power" etc.)

A way around this is "Shift-Cloaking" which is described in the readme file which comes with the extender . Update your power macro to have Shift-Power instead of just power. (In the macro builder use the "Add Shift" button instead of "Add" when adding power to the macro)

Hope this helps.

Paul.
harryhoudini
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Post by harryhoudini »

Thanks Paul.

I actually removed that macro from the extender file and uploaded it again, still the same problem.

Do I need to remove it from the original config, run the "installer" again and then upload the extender?

I'm not at home now, so I'll try it tonight.
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Post by The Robman »

Harry, I renamed this thread as "9960 Extender Kills Remote" might lead some people (who don't actually read the thread) to think that the extender killed your remote. Keeping in mind that "killed" is a state that one doesn't usually return from (as in "dead").
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pgk
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Post by pgk »

The macro would only cause the loop if you ran it, so it won't make any difference if it was there before you uploaded the extender. Which unfortunately means we'll have to look a bit harder.

Did you try just using the "URC9960 Extender 2.txt" file which came in the zip file with the extender?

I don't have one of these remotes so hopefully someone who does maybe able to help you more, but I'll look into this again when I get home if no one has.

Paul.
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Post by Nils_Ekberg »

If you try the extender text file and it works fine then that leads me to believe something is not getting correctly converted by extinstall. Try the txt file and let me know the outcome.
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Post by pgk »

Looking through the file and the documents I can see another couple of problems which might explain the issue.

(1) you have the "backlight motion action" set to ignore, so moving the remote won't turn the light on.
(2) you have the "backlight off key action" set to ignore, so the first keypress will turn the backlight on, but not be processed
(3) you have the backlight timer set to 1, under the extender this means the backlight will come on for 1/7.6 seconds (i.e. not long)

The combination of (2) and (3) probably means you press a button, it's ignored but turns the light on, before you press another button the light goes off and so we're back to the press a key to turn the light on bit again.

Try going into the general tab in ir, and on the right hand panel find the "backlight timer" setting. Increase this 76 (10 seconds), upload to the remote and try again.
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Post by Nils_Ekberg »

pgk wrote:(1) you have the "backlight motion action" set to ignore, so moving the remote won't turn the light on.
(2) you have the "backlight off key action" set to ignore, so the first keypress will turn the backlight on, but not be processed
(3) you have the backlight timer set to 1, under the extender this means the backlight will come on for 1/7.6 seconds (i.e. not long)
Good catch.. I have not had a chance to look. This working for a living this is getting very disruptive :lol:
harryhoudini
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Post by harryhoudini »

Excellent catch!

I did try the base text extender file and I believe (trying to remember) it worked.. of course, none of the equipment worked, but that was expected.

I'll fix what you suggested tonight and report back. Ok, maybe not tonight or the g/f will get pissed at my playing with my remote so much (no innuendo!)
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