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DVD Electrohome EDVD655
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:12 pm
by ve3lnc
Subject: DVD Electrohome EDVD655
1. Device: Electrohome EDVD655
2. Type of device: DVD player
3. Year: 2010
4. JP1/UEI Remote model: Atlas 1056 B01
5. Do you have a JP1 cable? Yes
6. Still have original remote? Yes
7. Checked the file section? Yes
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? Yes
9. Partially working setup code? Yes, DVD/1031 But Mixed up/no power on
10. Learning remote question? Atlas 1056 Will not learn from original remote
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:28 pm
by The Robman
That implies that your device uses NEC1 device 0. We don't have any upgrades for Electrohome DVD players that use that codeset.
Unfortunately, there are tons of upgrades that do use that codeset, so it's impossible to suggest one for you. Therefore, I recommend that you create an upgrade using NEC1 dev 0, and then start programming functions using OBCs starting with 0 and then test it to see which buttons actually do something.
When you find a button that does something, make a note of which button is was so you can look up the OBC in your upgrade.
Once you've compiled a list of good OBCs, you can build your upgrade.
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:01 pm
by vickyg2003
There are 4 standard UEI codes for Electrohome DVD players that use NEC1 0 codes
Video/0770 Power EFC 00052
Video/0784 No Power key defined
Video/0893 Power EFC 00052 ** Not in the your Atlas
Video/1003 Power 00119
How did you ever end up with 1031?
Besides those Nec1 0 codes, your remote also has these codes that are for use with Electrohome DVD players.
Video 0000, 0037, 0043, 0060, 0061, 0209 and 0240
Its important that you try all the codes listed for your brand, even if you found one that partially works.
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:24 pm
by vickyg2003
Oh, I just went over to urcSupport to see what order the Electrohome DVD codes were listed in the Atlas manual, and I couldn't find any!
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:27 am
by ve3lnc
Thank you so much for your responses, however they beg a number of interesting questions:
1. How did Rob know that it was a NEC1 device 0? From the device code?
2. To answer Vicki's question I just searched for any code that affected the power status of the DVD player. 1031 was the ONLY one. A question for her, only some EFC's work on the Atlas. I thought that ANY EFC could be programmed into a remote - what prevents certain EFC's from working? Is there a "good" remote where ALL EFC's work?
3. I tried to find out if the Electrohome DVD was made by someone else to find the right code but was unable to find any. Any ideas? That DVD is a great player with Karoke and it play AVI and DIVX files native.
4. It says that that remote 1056 is learnable but I have NEVER been able to capture any remote's data - like Yamaha RAV-362 or the Electrohome remote. Am I missing something?
Thanks for any assistance in advance.
Steve
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 8:48 am
by Capn Trips
At the risk of sounding pedantic, those questions aren't "begged". Begging a question means to answer a question other than the one asked, thereby leaving it "begging".
The questions you raise are NEW questions, so the previous response more correctly "raises' the 4 questions you pose, rather than "begs" them
(language is one of my pet peeves, and the misuse of the phrase "begging the question" by a great many people, including mainstream media reporters who theoretically should know better bugs me. William Safire must be turning in his grave.)
But to try to be a little more useful:
(1) There is a "Lookup Tool" linked at the top of this forum. Try it out, surf around. It allows you to look up UEIC setup codes and then displays for you the protocol and device information. Very cool tool;
(2) that answer is unclear from the info provided. The model of remote is immaterial. If the setup code is correct, then any "correct" EFC will work, so perhaps the setup code is not the best - maybe there is a combo protocol code that would work better for you - can't tell, or perhaps you are doing something incorrectly;
(3) No clue, but others here are much more adept than I at potentially sorting that type of question out - although sometimes it simply cannot be done;
(4) The 1056 MAY have learning. All 1056 do not necessarily have learning components installed. As a bit of an Atlas geek, I put together a
guide to the family of Atlas remotes.
Good luck with your search, and perhaps we can help more with extra info.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:20 am
by The Robman
Steve,
Any remote that accepts EFCs will accept *all* EFCs. Given that we have determined that your device uses NEC1 dev 0, creating a complete upgrade for it is now fairly straight forward. You have 2 options:
1) Create a new upgrade using NEC1 and device code 0. Then create functions with OBCs starting at 0 and going as high as you can fit in one upgrade. Assign these functions to buttons and then test the upgrade. Make a note of which buttons actually do something. Repeat the process until either (a) all of the OBCs in the range 0-255 have been covered, or (b) all of the real functions have been found.
2) Test each EFC from 000 thru 255.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:47 am
by vickyg2003
ve3lnc wrote:
2. To answer Vicki's question I just searched for any code that affected the power status of the DVD player. 1031 was the ONLY one. A question for her, only some EFC's work on the Atlas. I thought that ANY EFC could be programmed into a remote - what prevents certain EFC's from working? Is there a "good" remote where ALL EFC's work?
Oh I see I wasn't quite clear.
There are several ElectroHome DVD setup codes in the database. Most of the setup codes are in the ATLAS 1056
Electro home DVD setup codes are all in your remote, and I think starting with one of these would be your best bet.
Video 0770, 0784, and 1003
Video 0000, 0037, 0043, 0060, 0061, 0209 and 0240
There is one more Electrohome DVD upgrade Video/0893 but that one isn't built in to the remote.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:47 am
by ve3lnc
Suggest you close this thread. This DVD player crapped out with a problem that seems to be endemic to this player - the disk stops and the power turns off automatically. Other people have had this problem as well. I scrapped this player and got a great Panasonic player from Best Buy that reads everything you can throw at it.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:09 am
by The Robman
Did you get a chance to build an upgrade for it before it died?
I see in your other thread that you now have a JP1 learning remote, when your cable arrives would you be willing to learn the signals from the Electrohome remote and build an upgrade?
How To Build An Upgrade
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:57 pm
by ve3lnc
As a newbie, but learning fast with your help, I would be happy to capture the existing remote. Then use the appropriate tools to download from the RCA learning remote using the jp1 cable. Then I could send you that file to do whatever magic is required to build an upgrade. Or do so, with your guidance.
Steve
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:16 pm
by The Robman
Thanks Steve, I'll do the rest if you just do the learning. If you use up all the learning memory while doing this, download the memory using IR.exe and save the file. Then reset the remote and continue. Save as many IR files as it takes to capture all the buttons.
Then post the IR files and I'll build the upgrade.
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:13 pm
by ve3lnc
Rob, I now have an IR file. However, to make it complete, how do I capture the unique keys (like Karaoke). Is there a way to use "shifted" keys. Like a shifted 1? And how can I capture the Power key? I would also like to edit the name of some of the keys - for example I put Setup on the Guide Key. How do I make sure that people know that?
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:02 pm
by The Robman
If it makes it simpler, do two sets of learns. For the first set, learn everything that has a logical equivalent on the JP1 remote. For the next set, learn all the goofy buttons and keep track of where you learned them, then in the IR file, add a not to each button to show what it is.
If you have enough learning memory to capture them all at once, use one device mode for the normal buttons, and a different device mode for the goofy buttons.
There's several ways to approach this, hopefully this has given you a few ideas.
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:26 pm
by ve3lnc
An RM upgrade was created from the original remote but it was not fully tested because the original DVD is now broken. All buttons have been placed on a PVR style remote with some shift keys.
File URL:
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=9165