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8910 wav further help

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:06 pm
by HMdude3
Ok, I started this thread ( https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewt ... 9449#p79449 ) I have 2 wav files created but when I try to do the upgrade the remote doesn't respond while the sound was playing. It just eventually exits setup. What might I be doing wrong? Also I had 1 upgrade loaded into it when I 1st got it for a different device, will this affect that?

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:26 pm
by The Robman
Does your remote rattle? It's possible that the modem has broken loose, which is a very common problem with these remotes as it's only held in place with glue and the particular glue that they use gets hard and brittle with age, so it tends to shatter which in turn means there's nothing holding the modem in place.

If this is the case, you need to open the remote and locate the loose modem (which is just a white plastic coil, wrapped in a very fine wire). Locate the two ends of the wire. Then place the coil back in position, with the two teeth in the holes provided. Then solder the two wires to the two little solder pads inside the circle. Then use hot glue to re-glue the modem onto the PCB.

answer

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:47 pm
by HMdude3
Hey Rob, thank you for your quick response, and no. I think I was missing a step, after I tell it to upgrade, I had to press select again for the led indicator to light up, after doing that, and the sound plays, the led flickers (I'm guessing as an indicator its receiving) but when it finishes it says error. But I do have 1 other question, someone said if I do an upgrade it will "wipe out" my current programming, do they mean for the whole remote? I'll have to enter my codes for each device again? And this it will erase any prior upgrades, as I have 1 that I did when I 1st got the remote for my direcTV box. Or that it will only wipe out the programing for the device I am trying to add the code for?

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:57 pm
by The Robman
No, it will wipe out as much as you selected. So, for example, when you built the wav file you just selected upgrades, it will only wipe out your upgrades, not your macros, keymoves, learned signals, etc. But, if you selected the whole remote, it would overlay everything.

The original poster was just making sure that you were aware that it would overlay any upgrades that you might have added in the past.

Re: answer

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:05 pm
by johnsfine
HMdude3 wrote:do they mean for the whole remote? I'll have to enter my codes for each device again? And this it will erase any prior upgrades, as I have 1 that I did when I 1st got the remote for my direcTV box. Or that it will only wipe out the programing for the device I am trying to add the code for?
A .wav file, made the way OFA makes .wav files, will wipe out all previous upgrades and nothing else. It won't wipe out your selections of setup codes, nor your keymoves, macros, nor learned signals.

With our tools, you can make a .wav file like that (replaces all and only upgrades) or you can make one that reprograms other things as well (setup code selection, keymoves, etc.). But you can't make a .wav file that adds or replaces an upgrade without replacing or removing all previous upgrades.

ooops

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:33 pm
by HMdude3
Ok, even though the upgrade didn't work, it wiped out my setup, not a huge deal, except I have to re-upgrade for my DirecTV box (1377 code) so, to get this done do I need to merge both upgrades into 1 wav? Now when I try to do the upgrade, I can't press select for it to start, it says error. I tried OPS reset, and it says bad E2, does this mean the wav I tried to do damaged the memory? And I'm stuck with not being able to upgrade it now via wav files, or worse, at all? At the very minimum now I would like to get my DirecTV box code back in.

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:13 pm
by The Robman
You'll need to do a full MFR RESET (not an OPS RESET).

https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4057

Re: answer

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:38 pm
by 3FG
johnsfine wrote: A .wav file, made the way OFA makes .wav files, will wipe out all previous upgrades and nothing else. It won't wipe out your selections of setup codes, nor your keymoves, macros, nor learned signals.
That seems to imply that OFA only makes WAV files that contain solely upgrades. The WAV file supplied by OFA to Gup, and discussed in another thread, contains keymoves. So in that case, I think it would overwrite upgrades, keymove, and macros.

Whew

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:52 pm
by HMdude3
Thanks Rob, that's a relief, I was worried I hosed it somehow, but wasn't fully convinced I did. So back to the original problem, I don't mean to sound repetitive, I know I am, lol. I need to merge the wav files? Now 2ndly, what did I do wrong to get the E2 memory corrupted, so as I won't do it again. This is the ir file I exported to wav ( https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=7188 ). I can post the wav file if needed as well. Ok, and final question, this 1 has an easy answer, I scoured the forums there's so much it can be hard to find an answer that may already be there, but to the point, simply, when the upgrade is finished which key do I press to tell the remote its finished? It stays on the download screen with the led on for several seconds after, then says error.

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:13 pm
by The Robman
If you wish to have two different upgrades present in your remote, you would have to create a WAV file that contains both upgrades.

I don't know what you did to confuse the remote, but it happens sometimes, it's not unusual.

UEI would *never* create a WAV file that includes keymoves and/or macros.

Merge

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:41 pm
by HMdude3
OK, so are you saying its possible key moves in the wave file may have confused the remote? And now I made this file, ( https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=7189 ) I think its correct, but I merged the 8020 upgrade with the (1377 code) for my DirecTV box. How should I make the wave to get the key moves from the JVC receiver as they are not assigned properly by default, and the DTV code installed properly. Or should I make 2 wavs, 1 for upgrades, and 1 for key moves?

Re: Merge

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:44 pm
by Mark Pierson
HMdude3 wrote:Ok, so are you saying its possible key moves in the wave file may have confused the remote?
The .wav file you linked to above does not contain any keymoves that I can see (using Binky's RDF)... it only has 3 device upgrades and 1 protocol upgrade.

Above ir file

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:53 pm
by HMdude3
Mark,

hmmm, there should be 4 key moves as those 4 keys are not properly assigned for some reason, also I moved 2 others to match how I currently had it set. I also posted another ir file with the 1377 code and 1074 codes in it. Maybe you or some one could review it for any possible errors that might put me at another reset. Ok, I had a thought, when I paste the protocol from RM, it is using the device combiner as the JVC receiver uses 4 different code bases, do I need to paste that into special protocols in IR?

Thank You

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:19 pm
by HMdude3
I GOT IT! I just wanted to thank all who helped me over the last few days through this process. I did what I said above, making 1 wav for key moves, and 1 for the upgrades. It worked beautifully. I have my DTV 1377 code back in the remote, the full feature code from my receiver in the remote (code 1074) with my menu and arrow keys assigned as well as the set and exit keys. Thanks a bunch again, I really appreciate everyone's help and bearing with me thru my learning of this stuff. I knew with your guys' help I'd get it.

Todd

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:59 pm
by 3FG
The Robman wrote: UEI would *never* create a WAV file that includes keymoves and/or macros.
I claimed the opposite, and I was wrong. :oops: