Thomson DCI 5211 HOT Cable Box

[alanrichey]

Interesting, you are right of course, I remember it. What has happened is that when I replaced the [Thomson] entry in PROTOCOLS.INI and then started RM and loaded the old RMDU file it seems to have changed the OBC codes as well as removing the Device column ?

Look like I will have to go through the learn process all over again.

Or maybe I should wait until DECODEIR is fixed.

[vickyg2003]

Rob, are you saying that the IRP is incorrect

IRP notation: {33k,500}<1,-4|1,-9>(D:4,T:1,D:1:5,F:6,1,^80m)+
With UEI executor being OBC Comp?

Is wrong? That's how I got to the correct hex for device 3, OBC 46 as being C4, which is 3 46.

I thought the protocols.ini entry was wrong.

[The Robman]

They were all wrong.

I've come up with a better idea, given that we're probably not going to get DecodeIR fixed any time soon. The new protocols.ini entry below will let you use the displayed OBCs, as long as the displayed device code is < 32, and when the displayed device code is 32+ you will need to add 64 to the OBC to make it correct.

[Thomson]
PID=00 4B
VariantName=7
DefaultCmd=00
DevParms=Device:4=0
DeviceTranslator=Translator(lsb,comp,0,4)
FixedData=00
CmdParms=OBC:7=0
CmdTranslator=Translator(lsb,comp,0,6,1) Translator(lsb,comp,0,1,0,6)
DefaultCmd=00
Code.S3C80=76 76 11 8B 0E C5 41 05 07 00 F2 03 DC 00 F2 08 BE 9C 40 31 02 27 07 03 31 C2 8D 01 46
Code.HCS08=20 11 3C 3C 11 C5 41 05 07 00 E5 04 01 00 E5 08 F2 9C 40 01 B3 06 B6 60 A8 08 B7 60 CC FF 5F
Code.740=0F 1D 11 80 0C E0 A2 01 10 05 07 03 97 06 E0 4E 14 17 5A 02 6F 5D 4C 00 FF

[vickyg2003]

yes, but can you get the dev column to appear and put the dev in the first bit and then 06 bits in the function portion? If so its pretty easy in RM to enter the hex.

[The Robman]

yes, but can you get the dev column to appear and put the dev in the first bit and then 06 bits in the function portion? If so its pretty easy in RM to enter the hex.

Man, figuring out how to set the protocols.ini variables is REALLY difficult, but I think I got it working...

[Thomson]
PID=00 4B
VariantName=7
DefaultCmd=00
DevParms=Device:4=0
DeviceTranslator=Translator(lsb,comp,0,4)
FixedData=00
CmdParms=Device:Dev. 1|Dev. 2,OBC:6=0
CmdParmInit=ParmInitializer(0,0,5,1)
CmdTranslator=Translator(0,1,comp) Translator(lsb,comp,1,6,1)
DefaultCmd=00
Notes=This executor will let you combine two Thomson device codes, where the second device code is 32 greater than the first. Enter the first (lower) device code.
Code.S3C80=76 76 11 8B 0E C5 41 05 07 00 F2 03 DC 00 F2 08 BE 9C 40 31 02 27 07 03 31 C2 8D 01 46
Code.HCS08=20 11 3C 3C 11 C5 41 05 07 00 E5 04 01 00 E5 08 F2 9C 40 01 B3 06 B6 60 A8 08 B7 60 CC FF 5F
Code.740=0F 1D 11 80 0C E0 A2 01 10 05 07 03 97 06 E0 4E 14 17 5A 02 6F 5D 4C 00 FF

[Thomson (old)]
PID=00 4B
DefaultCmd=00
DevParms=Device:6=0
DeviceTranslator=Translator(lsb,comp,0,4) \
Translator(comp,0,1,5,5)
FixedData=00
CmdParms=OBC:6=0
CmdTranslator=Translator(lsb,comp,0,6)
DefaultCmd=00
Notes=This is the older version of the Thomson executor, found in remotes like the URC-7560. You can use this as long as all the buttons use the same device code. If you have two device codes, switch to the newer version.
Code.S3C80=76 76 11 8B 0E C5 41 06 06 00 F2 03 DC 00 F2 08 BE 9C 40 31 02 27 07 03 31 C2 8D 01 46
Code.HCS08=20 11 3C 3C 11 C5 41 06 06 00 E5 04 01 00 E5 08 F2 9C 40 01 B3 06 B6 60 A8 08 B7 60 CC FF 5F
Code.740=0F 1D 11 80 0C E0 A2 01 10 06 06 03 97 06 E0 4E 14 17 5A 02 6F 5D 4C 00 FF

[The Robman]

Any word, Alan and/or Vicky?

[alanrichey]

Can I just confirm that the Thomson protocol is the one to use or do we keep the Thomson(old) as well ?

And the 'official' PROTOCOLS.INI actually has 2 entries, one for the Code.S3C80 and Code.HCS08 and another for the Code.740

Awfully confusing Can you tell me EXACTLY what is needed in the file ?

[The Robman]

You should replace all the Thomson entries in protocols.ini with the 2 entries that I created. The only reason that I created the "old" version was so that people with remotes that have the older version of the executor will still be able to create upgrades that don't require a protocol upgrade.

In the current protocols.ini, the two versions also represent the old and new versions of the executor, but as they use the same name, the user cannot control which one is used. The old version only has 740 code because that's all that whoever added it decided to add. Likewise, the newer version was missing the 740 code because the person who added the code didn't bother to generate it. I added all code versions to both Thomson versions.

[vickyg2003]

Man, figuring out how to set the protocols.ini variables is REALLY difficult, but I think I got it working...

I'm glad to year YOU say it. I worked on that for hours with no results.

I have tried and tried to read the comments section of protocols.ini to figure out what I need to do. Is there more documentation that I'm not seeing?

I actually hadn't seen your post, it wasn't showing up on my new posts.

I'll try to take a look but I really need to find a s3c8+ remote since my jp1.2/3 cable is out of commission.

[The Robman]

I read the documentation a hundred times and it didn't help. The only reason I figured it out was because I noticed that the Akai protocol was doing something similar, so I copied the entry for that protocol and kept tweaking it until it did what I want.

If you need an S3C8+ remote, I can send you one.

[alanrichey]

OK, let's hope ron_by is still monitoring the thread.

How about this Custom Remote ?

https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=8927

[vickyg2003]

I read the documentation a hundred times and it didn't help. The only reason I figured it out was because I noticed that the Akai protocol was doing something similar, so I copied the entry for that protocol and kept tweaking it until it did what I want.

Thank-you. I thought I was just being a dimwit. If you understand what you've done well enough to explain it I'd love to hear about it.

If you need an S3C8+ remote, I can send you one.

I have plenty of s3c8+ JP1 remotes, the problem is they are all in-use or in FL. It was just finding one that I could use on the bench that was the problem. I went on a remote hunt and found I had URC-6011's in the guest room that won't be missed, there is still one remote in there. If I have guests they'll just have to share a remote!

[alanrichey]

Looks like ron_by gave up waiting. Pity after all that work.

[vickyg2003]

Yes, its too bad that he didn't stick around for the payoff.

However this fixed the thomson protocol for everybody so it was time well spent.

[alanrichey]

Well. we 'hope' it is fixed. Still haven't proven it though.