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Trying to get Philips DSR708 DirecTivo to work

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 4:55 pm
by cmoore
I have a 15-1994 remote. Sometime in the distant past I made a cable for it, got IR.exe working, and got it to talk to my Sony T-60 DirecTivo box. Now I've bought a new DirecTivo, a Philips DSR708. I've forgotten most of what I learned before about how remotes work and I'm kind of stuck.

I do still have the cable, I've got IR.exe (downloaded the latest), and I can talk to the remote. I'm not able to get the KM spreadsheet to work because I can't add the Analysis Tool Pack add-in. Apparently there's something wrong with my Office XP CD - the installer won't run at all.

I think what I want to do isn't too complicated. I have about a dozen key moves programmed for the T-60 that I need to change so they work with the Philips. I just don't know what to put in for device type, setup code, and EFC for each.

I tried having the 1994 learn one of the buttons from the Philips remote and this is what I get:
Protocol: Tivo-NEC1 unit=0
Device: 133
Sub-Device: 48
OBC: 70
Hex Cmd: 9D
EFC: 166

The 166 agrees with a list of Advanced Codes I found, but I don't know what to do with the rest of the information.

If anyone could help me out that'd be great.

Thanks,

Chris

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 5:09 pm
by wwwoholic
Let's try to fix your installation first. If you did JP1 before, you can do it again.

Do not try to run installer from CD. Instead: start-settings-control panel-add/remove programs; find office XP in the list. There should be two buttons: "remove" and "change". If you click "change" local copy of the installer should start. Check if you have Analysis Tool Pack already installed. If not - try to install.

If yes - then this plugin is simply disabled. Run excel and enable it. Also, due to great microsoft wisdom menu tools-addins in excel is disabled if file is not open. And you can not open KM until you enable it. To break the circle temporarily create blank new workbook.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 5:41 pm
by cmoore
Same problem. When I click on "Change" it says it needs the CD. I put the CD in and it starts running the installer. Then I hear the CD "buzz" three times (like it's doing retries?) and I get an error, "This patch package could not be opened. ..."

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:06 pm
by gfb107
Well, if you can't get KM and Excel working, you can always give RM a try.

Making Progress

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:07 pm
by cmoore
OK, I was able to add in the Analysis Tools Pack to Excel on my laptop, so I've got KM working. Now I'm confused about device types. The page I found that describes the codes for the Philips DirecTivo says "Advanced Codes for PVR_0618", then "VCR/0618 and SAT/1142 <CABLE Group>".
So is my device type PVR? VCR? SAT? Or Cable?

Thanks for your help.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:10 pm
by gfb107
The built setup codes are VCR/0618 and SAT/1142, but these aren't built into the 15-1994, so you should just pick whatever device type you want, based on which type provides the highest number of keys you want to use.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:21 pm
by The Robman
In the 15-1994, CBL and VCR modes have the most buttons, so go with either of those.

To answer your main question, all UEI codes fall into 4 main categories: TV, VCR, CBL and Audio. Each of those categories breaks down into smaller categories...

TV: (none)
VCR: LD, DVD, PVR,
CBL: SAT, VIDACC, etc
Audio: CD, HOME_AUTO, etc

So, in a non-LCD remote like the 15-1994, DVD, LD, etc codes are all lumped in with the VCR codes, whereas in an LCD remote like the 15-2116, they are seperated into seperate groups.

The PVR codes appear as "VCR" codes in most remotes, but on a few select remotes, there is a seperate PVR category.