JP1 Remotes

[digital_silence]

1. Device: Samsung SP-434JMF (chassis SPT52A)
2. Type of device: Rear Projection TV
3. Year: ???? (around 2002)
4. JP1/UEI Remote model: URC-8811
5. Do you have a JP1 cable? Yes
6. Still have original remote? No
7. Checked the file section? Yes
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? Yes
9. Partially working setup code? No
10. Learning remote question? n/a

[Capn Trips]

Although you used the template (so we know you do not have the original remote from which to learn) it appears that you perhaps didn't read the post from which the template comes:

[digital_silence]

Hi, captain.

I did read and did understand the post you quoted.
(Been to JP1 since 2004, despite my # of posts in this forum :)

I have looked through the Samsung devices list in the files section thoroughly, but did not think that any of the devices in the list would have similar functionality to the subject. That is why I decided to ask the forum first.
Surely, if I don't get anything closer, I'll start trying those upgrades one by one. Looks like this is the case anyway. Thanks for your thoughts.

BTW, the Pronto file section contains something that looks closest of all to my model: SP-403JHA
Can anyone pls convert it to 8811 compatible upgrade? Thanks in advance.

[mdavej]

Try DecodeCCF.

[digital_silence]

I've done that thanks.

Still... If anyone here has an original remote for the subj, could they please reply to this thread if they are kind enough to help me with learning all keys and posting the dump here.

[digital_silence]

There's a new bunch of new questions due to the slight scenario change.

I have found someone locally with the original remote, but they are reluctant to just lend it to me for a day or two, so I have negotiated to come to their place in the next few days and "teach" my remote "while they wait" (unfortunately the owner of original remote isn't technical at all and got a bit suspicious even as to what "learning" may mean... :-)

Anyway, I am going to take my 8811 and learn. The issue now is how to do this quickly and efficiently with someone (who is basically doing you a favour) staring over your shoulder... :)

The original remote has 54 buttons ! Hence the questions (all about learning capabilities of URC8811):

1) I understand that NOT only L1 to L4 buttons can be used to learn commands. What other buttons can I use for "learning" on my 8811 ?

2) How many buttons can be used for "learning" per one device in 8811 ?

3) Can I use the same buttons for learning in the next device of 8811 without loosing the learnt commands of those buttons for previous device?
For example, if I "teach" numerical buttons of one device (say, TV commands) and then "teach" the numerical buttons again, differently, for other device (say, VCR), will the numerical buttons be still controlling TV if I select TV device on 8811 ?

4) Due to internal memory limitations, how many "learnt" commands can be stored in 8811 all together ?

5) What would you suggest me in my situation when I am away from home trying to learn 54 commands with 8811 ? What's the best strategy to get the most out of that opportunity?

Thanks in advance for your replies,
:-DS

[Capn Trips]

First of all, I would respectfully suggest that in the three days (now 4) since you started this thread, it would have taken you about 30-45 minutes to try 1 or 2 of the upgrades to which I referred you in the first post, and you might have your working upgrade. I don't understand your reluctance to do so, but if you insist on travelling the more difficult path:

[digital_silence]

Thanks again Capn,

Your answers are clear - appreciated.
I thought of a little trick too - I'll take my laptop with me (with IR.EXE in it) and will backup the "learnt" URC8811 once its memory runs out, then learn the rest of the commands -> backup -> and so on...

As to your headline suggestion: what makes you think that I don't try that ? I am just exploring different paths, and trying to be multitasking (like Windows(TM)... sic :)... whichever works first for me...

Anyway, I have by now tried THREE different upgrades (including the one converted from CCF from Pronto site - see above) - all to no avail... And surely I'll keep trying... unless I sooner work it out by "learning from original".

I'll keep you posted. Watch this space. And thanks once again.

[Capn Trips]

[digital_silence]

[vickyg2003]

So did you use the brute force method on the Samsung? I ended up getting into the service menu by mistake when I walked through the functions on my Samsung. Getting into the service menu was more than a little frightening. But what did happen was that I found my Samsung had lots and lots of features that were not on the origninal remote.

I'm not sure what teletext functions are. Did 216 or 00216 give you CC when you send it as an advanced code? Are you perhaps looking for the SAP functions?

[Capn Trips]

It's not about winning or losing. It's just frustrating when the more experienced users' advice is seemingly not given appropriate consideration.

Vicky, teletext is an OTA TV digital information functionality relatively widespread in Europe. Usually relying on the colored buttons of the remotes, it allows you access to text-based pages through your TV that can carry news headlines, sports scores, stock prices, etc. I never used it during my time in the UK, but was peripherally aware of its presence.

On my JVC TV, all of the teletext functions were accessed using a DIFFERENT Device Number from the primary TV functions (In this case, TV used JVC:3 and teletext used a mix of JVC:15 and JVC:35, so I had to create (with help) a hybrid combo upgrade.)

Digital, I don't know what the situation is with your Samsung TV, but it is possible that the teletext functions use a different device or subdevice code from the primary functions, so a brute-force search may not be possible. (or practical - since you could have 256 device codes x 256 OBCs to test).

If NONE of the upgrades in the file section has any teletext functions for you to start a search from, you may still have to make that round trip to learn those codes for subsequent decoding.

P.S. Digital, could you please upload your file to the file section and post a link to it here, so that the next guy (or gal) can benefit from your hard work, as well? Thanks.
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[vickyg2003]

Well before you make the round trip, you might want to visit a local appliance store and see if they are selling any Samsung equipment. Its been my experience that Samsung is very steady in there use of codes. The new stuff is still using most of the same codes that my old Samsung uses. Capture the teletext signals and see if they do the trick.

[digital_silence]

[The Robman]