JP1 Remotes

Carwarr · Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 80 Location: Las Vegas, NV

I have an old remote used to control the Pioneer 8210 and 1100 laser players. I think it is pretty rare as I have been into Laser arcade games for quite some time and never seen one.

Anyway. I learned all the buttons and am tring to make an upgrade code for it.

The protocol ID that IR.exe gives me from the learned buttons is ID-000D and on several buttons it shows Async7 as a second one but I was just guessing this was extra light or something but I tried to relearn those buttons and always get it.

I tried to create an upgrade using the Akai protocol because its ID is 00 0D and thought it might work but no go.(newby mistake)

I uploaded my IR file with the learned buttons in it to the files section. It is called 8810pioneerlearn.zip if anyone wants to take a peek at it.

I guess I should have not used this remote as my first test of a hand made upgrade code!! hehe.

Anyway, if anyone has any idea where to go next, I would love to hear them.

BTW, the remote I am using is 8810w(8811) if it matters to look at the code.

Thanks for the greatest site I have frequented in a long time.

Mitch

johnsfine · Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 10:34 pm Post subject:

When I made the 000D decode in my decoder, maybe I didn't notice KM had Akai, or maybe it wasn't there yet, or maybe I really didn't like the way KM encodes it. Anyway, the way KM interprets device numbers and OBCs for that protocol is totally incompatible with the way my decoder does.

I think that if you use the decoded EFC values, not the OBC values and you use device number 3 in KM (for the decoded device 4) you will get the right results.

I haven't double checked (by learning from one JP1 remote to another), so if it doesn't work, ask again and I'll make sure.

The Async7 decodes are just a flaw in the decoder. Please ignore them.

Carwarr · Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 80 Location: Las Vegas, NV

You are absolutly right. I changed the device to 3 in KM and now everything works perfectly. I had previously used the EFC codes because I noticed those were the only ones that made the hex numbers match up.

I also confused myself when I learned the codes on buttons and then created a update code and could not figure out why some buttons worked and some were backwards, etc. Turns out even though I added the setup code to the DVD button, I was still outputing the learned keys when I pushed the button! After hitting head against the wall and erasing all the learned codes, I realised that none of them were working before.

I know you guys will make alot of people in the old laser community happy when I tell them all to go buy a $20 remote to use on their old laser players that they didn't even know had the ability.

Not to throw this thread into another topic, but how can I find out if anyone(Uei?) has used the setup code I would like to use in my upgrade? I know it can be anything but should I make sure I follow some normal scheme if I am going to add it to your guys group of upgrades on the site? I just used 1525 cause it was not in MY remote and 525 is for a pioneer vcr/dvd. I know there is the devices4.xls but that only shows what is in the 1994 remote right? or am I thinking wrong.

Thanks a million.

mr_d_p_gumby · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: You The MAN!!!

jamesgammel · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 12:14 pm Post subject:

I've made a lot of "personal"upgrades. What I did was started with 2000, and increased each one by "1" sequentially as I made them. Last look indicates that the next one will be 2017. Since 2047 is "max", I can make quite a few more. I don't *think* ueic is in the 2000 range yet.

Jim

The Robman · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 1:52 pm Post subject: Re: You The MAN!!!

johnsfine · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: You The MAN!!!

Carwarr · Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 80 Location: Las Vegas, NV

The Robman · Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 7:42 pm Post subject:

I would recommend calling it LD/0023 (rather than LD/1023) as this code is not present in your remote (and it's not in many remotes at all, come to that).

For what it's worth, I have just created a KM for that replicates the LD/0023 code as found in the URC-9800, but this really won't do you that much good as you've already got your own KM file well under way.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jp1/files/3.%20Device%20Codes/Laserdisc/Pioneer-LD-0023.txt
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Carwarr · Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 80 Location: Las Vegas, NV

Ok then. I will use the 0023 then. I thought I should keep it a different number then is on ANY remote if possible but your the boss! Hehe. Just kidding.

I guess I didn't even need to post it now that you put the orig 0023 there too! But mine has more keys on it.

That is mainly why I wanted to see what was in your orig 0023 file, to see if there were any more EFC codes that would work on the player but not on the remote. There are 2 on the chapter + and - keys that I will try and see if they do anything for me.

Anyway, my file is here if anyone wants to take a look at it and see if I did everything ok.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jp1/files/3.%20Device%20Codes/Laserdisc/Pioneer_laser_1100_remote.txt

Thanks again.
Mitch

The Robman · Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 8:06 am Post subject:

You could try asking OFA or RS to email you the EFCs for this code, their lists sometimes contain additional EFCs.
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Carwarr · Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 80 Location: Las Vegas, NV