JP1 Remotes

[Capn Trips]

These look like the 1056BC version I mention in the Atlas remotes general info sticky post. If you get those, I'd be interested in getting 1 or 2 of them from you. Sale or barter, I'm flexible.
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[Capn Trips]

[Evan_s]

[binky123]

I'm not seeing the same behaviors in IR that you are seeing.

SCAN/FAV, I believe, starts a timer and cycles thru all the macros until a key is pressed. MultiMacros are different in that a timer is not started but the macro sequence position is retained so the next button press toggles to or triggers the next macro in sequence.

I have the original 3033 .IR files and when I select to load one of these, IR does prompt me to select between the Original RDF and the OCAP RDF. Somehow, your IR version is not seeing the two RDFs.

I will modify the original 3033 RDF to include your button name changes so we only have one 3033 RDF. It should end up similar to how the 6820/8820/10820 work with different images but the same RDF.

[Capn Trips]

[vickyg2003]

Capn, what does the official documentation for the Ocap model call your onDemand button? For RDF's that will be official rdfs, that's probably the labeling you'll want to go with.

In the printed documentation for the Atlas Day models the OnDemand button is called Tuner2. That will be the least confusing in the long run.

[Capn Trips]

In the OCAP manual from UEIC's urcsupport page, they are, from left to right:
F1,
On Demand, and
F2
In the manual, the On Demand key is treated separately and the other two are called Macro Keys, but my testing indicates that all behave the same way, just like the TuneIn keys on the 1054 and 1055 remotes. (I intend to test other keys to see if they behave like "regular" keys with macros, or as "multi-macro" keys, as well)

As for the Atlas 5-Device PVR remotes (1054 and 1055) they share the same manual on that website, and those buttons are unlabelled, but described as follows:

[mr_d_p_gumby]

A little MultiMacro history might help here. The MultiMacro key first appeared on the Navigator remotes. There were 3 keys for this that were labelled differently on each Navigator, and each could hold 3 macros.

The macros themselves were simply stored along with other macros & keymoves. Some unused bits in the macro were used to flag the 1st, 2nd or 3rd macro. The total number of macros on each of the keys was stored elsewhere in the EEPROM. The original Navigator stored the current macro pointer in RAM, but later versions stored that info in the EEPROM.

The MutliMacros support was added to IR to accomodate the Navigators. You simply created three separate macros (bound to the same key) in IR, and IR was supposed to tag them as 1st, 2nd or 3rd, and update the control byte(s) as needed. I'm not sure this was ever thoroughly tested.

Later, other remotes,, such as the SA-7 Atlas started having the MultiMacro feature, but IR has never been updated for the more recent remotes with this feature that allow more than 3 macros per key. The support in IR is complicated by the fact that there are several different storage methods used.

Yes, the MultiMacros seem on the surface to be similar to the FAV key on other remotes, but the internal storage methods are completely different, which might nake it tough to move the functionality over to the Fav list area.

As to the naming of those keys in the RDF, I have tended toward calling them Macro1, Macro2, etc., though F1, F2, F3 works just as well. Remember, they will be labelled differently for every cable company.
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