JP1 Remotes

1. Device: Emprex HD-3201
2. Type of device: lcd tv
3. Year: 2006
4. JP1/UEI Remote model: One for All 8910
5. Do you have a JP1 cable? yes
6. Still have original remote? no
7. Checked the file section? yes
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? yes
9. Partially working setup code? no
10. Learning remote question?no

I'm actually trying to get this together for a friend. He lost the remote to his new Emprex tv (don't ask, long story). There's an emprex 3202 file in the file section and I uploaded that file to a new one for all 8910, but he told me it didn't work at all. That surprised me, as I figured it would work for most of the functions on his 3201. So I'm throwing this request out just in case someone might have some clues.

I'm surprised that the 3202 code didn't work too, are you 100% sure you loaded it correctly? In the meantime, I've sent an email to Emprex to see if they'll supply the code info. Some companies can be a PITA about this sort of thing, but hopefully they're oriented towards customer service.

Also, just in case you need it, here's the user manual for this set:
http://www.emprex.com/var/manual/32tv%2 ... nglish.pdf

The Robman wrote:I'm surprised that the 3202 code didn't work too, are you 100% sure you loaded it correctly? In the meantime, I've sent an email to Emprex to see if they'll supply the code info. Some companies can be a PITA about this sort of thing, but hopefully they're oriented towards customer service.

Also, just in case you need it, here's the user manual for this set:
http://www.emprex.com/var/manual/32tv%2 ... nglish.pdf

Well, I can't be certain it loaded correctly, but I didn't notice anything unusual. Now that I think about it, it did load, as the new remote code appeared in the remote. I wonder though, if I selected the correct remote in the IR program. It offers and old and new for the 8910. I used the old one, because the remote looked identical to the one I use and I have to select the old one to program my remote properly. I'm not sure what the difference is between them. Btw, I wouldn't hold my breath for a reply from Emprex. I emailed them twice about the lost remote and they ignored me.

There is no difference in IR between the old and new 8910s. For that matter there is no programming nor operational difference between them in KM or RM. The only difference that designation (old vs. new) makes is in RM, where you will get a slightly different PICTURE of the remote on the layout page, since the newer ones replaced the hated "donut ring" with proper separate "arrow" buttons.

So THAT'S not your problem.

Usually in cases like this, it's simplest to upload the suspect KM, RM and/or IR files to the diagnosis area and provide a link here in the thread, describing the desired effect and the symptom you are seeing, and someone can quickly identify a problem and fix it (or not).

Ok, here's the link to the IR file.
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=4461

When I loaded the RMDU file into IR, I got this warning: TV2002 is not currently assigned a device button. Would you like to assign it now? If not, key move associated with the play button will be ignored. I selected the TV device. Sorry, I'm a little confused on the key moves.

Here's a link to the RMDU file:
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=4371

Let me explain the keymove issue.

You used the TV device mode for this upgrade, yet you also assigned functions to the transport buttons (eg, REW, FFWD, etc) which are not available in TV mode, so RM generated keymoves for you in order to program those buttons.

When you copy an upgrade over to IR, it doesn't normally automatically program it to a device button, but as your upgrade included keymoves, it needed to program the upgrade to a device button in order to store the keymoves, so this is why it asked you to select a device button.

I don't see anything wrong with the way you loaded the upgrade (though I did notice that you messed up most of the other device buttons), so if it doesn't work, it does tend to imply that the 3201 and 3202 sets use different codes.

Is the 3201 still available in stores? If so, maybe you could take your URC-8910 down to a store and try learning the buttons from an "in store" remote.

I found an ebay listing (item #160102376399) where someone has recently purchased an Exprex HD-3201, so I've sent them an email to see whether they would be willing to loan the remote so I can capture the data. If they are, will you be willing to cover their postage costs?

Actually, the set in this listing is defective, so if they're unable to get it working, they might be willing to sell you their OEM remote, if you're interested.

The Robman wrote:I found an ebay listing (item #160102376399) where someone has recently purchased an Exprex HD-3201, so I've sent them an email to see whether they would be willing to loan the remote so I can capture the data. If they are, will you be willing to cover their postage costs?

Actually, the set in this listing is defective, so if they're unable to get it working, they might be willing to sell you their OEM remote, if you're interested.

You guys are certainly more helpful than I expected. I think this boils down to cost. My friend went out and spent over a $100 on a remote that works on a limited basis for his Emprex, but he'd prefer a lower cost option, like a used original remote or a universal like I'm trying to do. So yeah, those options are open. If you can let me know what the costs are, I can run it by him.

If you have access to even a limited functionality remote you can probably start building your own upgrade for his TV.

The Remote will allow you to get the Protocol and the device codes then you just have to try the OBC codes to see what matches up to what function. Just learn the commands that do work from that remote to your jp1 remote and go threw the beginers guide to building your own upgrade.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/jp1/help/

http://controlremote.sourceforge.net/rmhelp/rmhelp.html

snakebite wrote:You guys are certainly more helpful than I expected. I think this boils down to cost. My friend went out and spent over a $100 on a remote that works on a limited basis for his Emprex, but he'd prefer a lower cost option, like a used original remote or a universal like I'm trying to do. So yeah, those options are open. If you can let me know what the costs are, I can run it by him.

I don't know what the costs are yet, as the ebay person hasn't replied yet and I don't know how likely it is that they will (after all, I'm a complete stranger asking to borrow their remote). But regardless, like Evan said, if they have a remote that works at least some of the functions, please go by their house with your URC-8910 and JP1 cable in hand, so you can capture all the buttons that do work, which will let you create an upgrade with the same functionality as the $100 remote, then we can compare the data to the stuff we have in our files. We might get lucky and discover that the codes match an existing upgrade, which means the rest of the button in the existing upgrade will probably work also. Or we might find that they match an existing UEI setup code, in which case I can get a list of EFCs from them. Or, we might find that even though the device codes used are different between the 3201 and 3202 models, the OBCs might be the same. Bottom line, we won't know until we see the learned signals.

The Robman wrote:

snakebite wrote:You guys are certainly more helpful than I expected. I think this boils down to cost. My friend went out and spent over a $100 on a remote that works on a limited basis for his Emprex, but he'd prefer a lower cost option, like a used original remote or a universal like I'm trying to do. So yeah, those options are open. If you can let me know what the costs are, I can run it by him.

I don't know what the costs are yet, as the ebay person hasn't replied yet and I don't know how likely it is that they will (after all, I'm a complete stranger asking to borrow their remote). But regardless, like Evan said, if they have a remote that works at least some of the functions, please go by their house with your URC-8910 and JP1 cable in hand, so you can capture all the buttons that do work, which will let you create an upgrade with the same functionality as the $100 remote, then we can compare the data to the stuff we have in our files. We might get lucky and discover that the codes match an existing upgrade, which means the rest of the button in the existing upgrade will probably work also. Or we might find that they match an existing UEI setup code, in which case I can get a list of EFCs from them. Or, we might find that even though the device codes used are different between the 3201 and 3202 models, the OBCs might be the same. Bottom line, we won't know until we see the learned signals.

Ok. I'll give that a try. Thanks.

I just created Emprex TV HD-3201 upgrade for 881x.
https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload ... le_id=4966

hi,
I also lost my remote, and I was reading in the emprex documentation that it cannot take a universal remote... but I see you got a work around this, is that right?

what is his jp1? sorry, i am new to this,
is this like those expensive logitech ones?
HOw much would I need to pay for one of these to use with my emprex?
thanks

sevillada wrote:I also lost my remote,

What model Emprex TV? Notice that the models 3201 and 3202 discussed earlier in this thread use different code sets. If you have a third model, there is a chance it uses a third code set.

sevillada wrote:I was reading in the emprex documentation that it cannot take a universal remote.

They're probably wrong. Certainly for the 3201 and 3202 for any PC programmable remote, they are wrong. I think for some of OneForAll's Atlas remotes you could control those two Emprex TV's even without a JP1 cable.

sevillada wrote:but I see you got a work around this, is that right?

Right.

sevillada wrote: what is his jp1? sorry, i am new to this,

It is a cable, plus free software, that lets you program OneForAll (and some related models of other brands) remotes from a PC, giving far greater flexibility than was designed into the remotes.

sevillada wrote:is this like those expensive logitech ones?

I don't know details about logitech, but I expect JP1 is both more flexible and less expensive.

sevillada wrote:HOw much would I need to pay for one of these to use with my emprex?

Check out prices and choices for remote and cable at:

https://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewt ... 13&start=0

If you're confident your Emprex matches one of the two discussed here, I expect Rob would be willing to preload those upgrades, so you could buy just the remote and not the cable.

If your Emprex is a third model, having the cable would let you experiment and maybe find the code if it doesn't match one of those two. But without a learned signal from the original remote, such experimentation could be difficult and there is no guarantee of success.

[quote="johnsfine"]wow, thanks for the quick response. Sorry for not being more specific (I hate when people do that lol) .
I do have the emprex 3201.
I had read that many people couldn't get it to work with different universal remotes, and the documentation said that too, but I am glad there is a work around.

I will check out the information,
Thanks lot for your help
if you want to find me, just google sevillada