JP1 Remotes

zbrarm · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 54

Tried making the upgrade as dreambox 1k remote in RM (and your right Mark, no upgrade protocol). Didnt work either...

johnsfine · Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject:

I expect both the frequency and the learned signals were issues, so you needed to test with both of those fixed at the same time.

zbrarm · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 54

Ok, just did that. Changed to 45 95 again and deleted all learned functions. Its a nono...

zbrarm · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 54

Can it matter in any way what kind of device type I list the upgrade as ? (like if i list it as Device Type TV, SAT or VCR/LD/DVD). Im not sure what category a DTR falls under.

The Robman · Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject:

Try this...
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=4181
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zbrarm · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 54

Yay Hurray !!! This one works like a charm...

Thanks so much...

zbrarm · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 54

@ Rob

The IR file you made the upgrade from only had like half of the buttons from the remote (due to full learning memory), so I just uploaded a complete upgrade in Digital STBs. You can delete the one you uploaded if you like. I compared the learned data with the upgrade you made and noticed that the upgrade HEX was the Learned HEX -1 (ie AE became AD) and EFC was learned data +8 (ie 56 became 64). I honestly dont get the logic in this, but i guess i didnt have to in order to complete upgrade Wink

I deleted the test file i uploaded from diagnosis area since this is now a fixed issue (cheers !!!)

Thanks a bunch !!

The Robman · Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:41 am Post subject:

If you want to complete your upgrade, here's what you need to do. Look at the learned signals in IR and take the OBC that IR shows, then to convert it to the OBCs used in my upgrade, use this formula...

new-OBC = (old-OBC * 2) - 127

So, for example, the OBC reported for the POWER button is 66, therefore...

66 * 2 = 132
132 - 127 = 5
==> the new OBC is 5
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zbrarm · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 54

Yes, that is also a way to do it, but in the end its the same result as either HEX-1 or EFC+8 (which was the formulas i used). But as i wrote i already completed the upgrade.

The Robman · Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject:

Could you explain what the following buttons do, as I'd like to document them in the upgrade file ...

SPLIT
Z
TV-G
MHP
A/B

Are these input selects...
RADIO
TV

I know these are typically used in the teletext menus, but does their meaning change from screen to screen, or do they each have a constant meaning?

RED
GREEN
YELLOW
BLUE
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zbrarm · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 54

Z = Exit
TV-G = TV-Guide
A/B = Switches between the 2 most recent channels
TV = TV mode (switches from Radio mode, i presume)
Radio= Radio mode (if avaliable)
? = Info
I = Menu

Besides the normal color guidance through the menu's the color buttons have the following meaning :

RED = Subtitle selection
GREEN = Clock
YELLOW = Switches between audio channels (mono/stereo)
BLUE = Options (not avaliable for all stations)

Not sure what the function for the buttons below do, but they have to do something (they are not even mentioned in the manual). They might be Grundig TV only functions as the remote can also work with Grundig TV, AVR and DVD.

SPLIT
MHP (though the clock comes up on this I dont think that is the essentiel function)

Forgot to mention but as i wrote in the description on the file download this remote have 3 additional buttons called TV, AVR and DVD that can control some other Grundig devices, but since they have completely different protocols i havent done anything about these. Like if you hold down the DVD button while you press MHP you would PAUSE the DVD. The protocol for htat is called Grundig16 or something like that, so cant include it in this upgrade.

zbrarm · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 54

Something different... I would like to make a macro that turns all my devices off, so i need to find or simulate the discrete code for the power button on the DTR. I read something about toadtog, but not sure my remote can handle that.

Can you point me in the right direction ?

The Robman · Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:14 pm Post subject:

Before you start to dig into ToadTog, which has a steep learning curve, you should experiment to see if your device supports discrete codes. You would do this by testing all the un-accounted for OBCs. (The LSB of the OBCs in my upgrade needs to be 1, so you should only try ODD numbered OBCs (ie, 1, 3, 5, etc).

Looking at the list of codes in your upgrade, here are the OBCs you should try...

7
13
21
23
25
27
29
31
55
57
59
61
63
71
73
79
81
89
95
99
101
103
105
107
109
111
113
115
121
123
127 and up...

Here's an upgrade file with all of those codes already entered, so all you need to do is load it into your remote, assign it to a device button and start pressing buttons. If any of the buttons do anything, make a note of what they did and then come back to the upgrade file to see what the OBC is. If you find a discrete off code, you shoudl repeat the process with the device turned off to see if you can find a discrete on.
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zbrarm · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 54

I just tried all of these OBC's but the reciever is not reacting on any of them.