JP1 Remotes

[mortod]

This is similar to the discussion here, but don't think this solves my problem:

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1069&highlight=long+key+press+original

I'm using a 6131 with extender. For my TV a single key press and a long key press on the original remote do different things (though still sending the same code, just for longer). I can emulate that by holding down the button on my 6131, but I need to program that function into a macro.

I've tried setting up a DSM, but with the slight pause between each key press the TV sees that as several key presses, not as a key being held down.

Any suggestions ?

[Capn Trips]

If you provide the specifics (device, protocol, functions, etc.) someone is more likely to be able to recommend a workaround, whether it's a tweak of the protocol, or some other possible solution.

I expect that what you will require is a tweak to the protocol to achieve the desired extended duration, and to create a device upgrade incorporating that tweaked protocol, and then keymove the desired function into your intended upgrade, but that's pure speculation and based on the details of your specific function nay or may not be easier or harder (for one of the experts) to do - of whom I am most definitely NOT.
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[mortod]

OK - thanks for the advice.

Its a Finlux TV, for which I am using what I believe to be a custom protocol. Not sure what details are required, but here is some copied from the KM spreadsheet:

Protocol ID: 00 B0
Fixed data:04
PID: B0
2nd Cmd Byte: None
Signal Style: LSB-COMP
Bits/Dev: 8
Bits/Cmd: 8

Upgrade Protocol 0 = 00 B0 (S3C8+) Custom Protocol for VCR/1346 TV/0346 (1346) (KM v8.38)
44 8F 11 8B 19 B5 85 90 38 08 08 00 F8 00 E4 00
F8 00 E4 1B 44 00 F8 04 F0 00 00 00 D6 C4 E6 06
BF E6 05 FF 8D 01 46
End

I need to hold the signal for about 1s (but only for that one function/button). I'd probably need to experiment to determine the exact hold duration I do require though.

[Capn Trips]

[ElizabethD]

PB says the repeat is at $FF1A in this, already custom, protocol. Thing is there's also a control byte dealing with repeats and I have no clue how that works. I suppose no harm would be done playing with the zero in red

Upgrade Protocol 0 = 00 B0 (S3C8+) Custom Protocol for VCR/1346 TV/0346 (1346) (KM v8.38 )
44 8F 11 8B 19 B5 85 90 38 08 08 00 F8 00 E4 00
F8 00 E4 1B 44 00 F8 04 F0 00 00 00 D6 C4 E6 06
BF E6 05 FF 8D 01 46
End

mortod, if you'd post your IR file, I can see what IRSA says now and whether this change is even relevant. You can experiment in IR - on the protocols sheet press edit, change that zero, OK, send back to the remote.

It's likely (if it does anything) to mess up the functions you don't want to tweak. That can be handled later, just try it on that one function you plan for the DSM.
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[mr_d_p_gumby]

You might also have to change the 7th byte from 85 to 95 to activate the minimum-repeat value.
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[ElizabethD]

Mike, can you tell us what each bit controls in those two control bytes? Not the simplest thing to figure out when you don't understand protocols at all. It's clearly tied to the setup sheet, but rought to match for me
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[mr_d_p_gumby]

Sorry Liz, don't have time right now to go through all the bit definitions (leaving for CES show momentarily). If you look at the S3 sheet in PB, you can get some idea of the bit functions by looking at the formula in each cell.

Like I said above, bit 4 of the 7th byte must be set so that the repeat values will be activated (change the 85 to 95). That bit tell the remote to repeat the transmission based on the number in the byte you identified (make sure it is greater than 0). Should be all you need here because the protocol is fairly simple. For example, if you set it for three repeats, then it will always send a minimum of three times (macro or not), and then continue to send if the button is held down (outside of a macro).

If it turns out that the number of repeats required is small, you might even be able to use this modified protocol for all the functions. If not, then load the modified protocol under a different number, use a dummy upgrade & keymove for the one function.

[mortod]

Thanks ever so much - Changing the 85 to 95 and 00 to 09 did the trick. I'll see how I get on with this for all functions of that device. But for now this works just fine.

Thanks.