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yesok



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:56 am    Post subject: Feelux Lighting Control Remote Reply with quote

Hello,

I am trying to create a new protocol for a lighting control remote from Feelux. So far I have learned the IR signals and cleaned up them as follows;

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// Feelux remote learned by ir - 20070227
//==========================================

+580 -4200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -3300 +580 -15300

+580 -4200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -3300 +580 -15300

+580 -4200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -3300 +580 -15300

+580 -4200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -3300 +580 -15300


+580 -4200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -3300 +580 -15300


+580 -4200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -3300 +580 -15300

+580 -4200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -3300 +580 -15300

+580 -4200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -3300 +580 -15300


+580 -4200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -3300 +580 -15300

+580 -4200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -3300 +580 -15300

+580 -4200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -3300 +580 -15300

+580 -4200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -1200 +580 -1200 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -580 +580 -3300 +580 -15300

I guess the signal is composed of lead in, 8 bit of device and command, complement of previous byte, lead out, lead out.

Could somebody tell me how to set up PB and KM(or RM) and get proper
device code and OBC's for it?

Thanks in advance.


Yesok
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a better idea to post the actual IR file as the timings by themselves don't tell us everything. We can't see the carrier frequency, we can't see whether the signal is sent once or repeatedly and we can't see which buttons are which.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:21 pm    Post subject: IR file uploaded Reply with quote

Robman,

Please fine the uploaded file(9910B01-Feelux-20070307-B3.ir) in Diagnosis Area.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) I fixed the url in your post.

2) The TV:5 button is learned wrong. I didn't look closely enough at the other digits to see whether we can deduce what 5 should have been or whether it must be relearned.

3) I expect Rob will help you before I have time to.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just uploaded a new DecodeIR.dll that includes this protocol (named "Feelux").

http://john.fine.home.comcast.net/ir/Decode_IR_DLL.zip

The decodes should help, but you still need a new protocol coded. Hopefully Rob will do that.

I'm not sure how Rob handled the double leadout last time that came up.

First cut at IRP notation is

{38K,msb}<575,-575|575-1197>(575,-4203,F:8,~F:8,575,-3289,575,-15330)+

Rob, if you have any suggestions for changing the name or other aspects of the decode, or fixing the irp notation etc., please tell me.

The OBC numbers for the digit keys are sequential so we won't need to see the 5 key relearned.

Edit: I fixed the -1533 at the end of the irp notation to -15330.


Last edited by johnsfine on Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:46 am; edited 1 time in total
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Feelux protocol Reply with quote

johnsfine wrote:
I just uploaded a new DecodeIR.dll that includes this protocol (named "Feelux").

I'm not sure how Rob handled the double leadout last time that came up.

First cut at IRP notation is

{38K,msb}<575,-575|575-1197>(575,-4203,F:8,~F:8,575,-3289,575,-1533)+


The OBC numbers for the digit keys are sequential so we won't need to see the 5 key relearned.


Thanks johnsfine.

Could you tell me the next steps to follow for my homework of coding the Feelux protocol?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll create PB and KM files for you when I have a moment, so you'll be able to see how I did it.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:51 am    Post subject: Nice Homework Opportunity Reply with quote

The Robman wrote:
I'll create PB and KM files for you when I have a moment, so you'll be able to see how I did it.


Thanks Robman.

What a nice chance to learn something important!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: Feelux protocol Reply with quote

yesok wrote:
Could you tell me the next steps to follow for my homework of coding the Feelux protocol?


I assume you skipped several functions in creating the set of learned signals you posted.

'5' was bad and you skipped '9', but '1' through '8' are OBC numbers 225 through 232 sequentially, so we can be sure '5' is 229 and '9' is 233. '0' is probably 224 but might be 234. I assume Rob will guess when he makes your file. You could wait and test that guess or you could learn '0'.

Any other functions you skipped won't be as easy to guess.

You should download that DecodeIR I provided and test that with your existing .ir file to make sure you can see the OBC numbers I mentioned. Then you should make a new file with whatever functions you missed, and get their OBC numbers as well. When Rob gives you a KM file, you should add those to the functions page, then map them to whatever buttons you like.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed, if you didn't learn all of the buttons, please learn the rest of them (including the ones that John says are bad) and post a 2nd IR file.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Learned signals from Feelux Lighting Control Remote Reply with quote

The Robman wrote:
Indeed, if you didn't learn all of the buttons, please learn the rest of them (including the ones that John says are bad) and post a 2nd IR file.


I have uploaded a 2nd IR file
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=4326 learned from Feelux Lighting Control Remote with johnsfine's new irdecoder.

Since it is for lighting control, it has only 13 buttons. The IR file contains all button signals, and #5 button is decoded as you have predicted.

I should say it is really a fun to learn something important with experts
living in other countries.

Many thanks to all,

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a KM file for you to test...
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=4332

And here's the PB file for your reference...
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=4333

I can't claim total credit for coming up with the method for doing this one. I noticed that the format is very similar to that used for the "Konka" protocol (which also has the double lead-out structure) so basically all I did was hack that executor to convert it for use here.

For your reference, here's a thread where the Konka protocol is discussed...
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7448
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Robman wrote:
Here's a KM file for you to test...
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=4332

And here's the PB file for your reference...
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=4333


Robman,

Thanks for the files.

The KM file, together with RM and IR, successfully reproduce all button codes from Feelux Lighting Control Remote.

What a nice way to solve a problem which is almost impossible to do myself!

Many thanks to all.


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