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digital_silence
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 252
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:41 am Post subject: SONWA SDVD300 DVD player |
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1. Device: SONWA SDVD300
2. Type of device: DVD player
3. Year: 2003 - 04 (?)
4. JP1 Remote model: URC8811
5. JP1 user? yes
6. Still have original remote? No
7. Checked the file section? Yes
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? Yes
9. Partially working setup code? No (also see below)
10. Learning remote question? N/A
As I read on some forums, this device has the same code set as Hyundai HY3455 DVD player. Someone also mentioned that it is cross-coded (same protocol, but different command set) with LG TVs (i.e. R/C for SDVD300 also "randomly" controls LG TVs (there was no information as to which ones)).
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Added later:
There is a ray of hope. I have programmed TV device of my URC8811 with the code 0056 (LG TV), and some buttons on the URC8811 now actually do something for SDVD300:
POWER (on 8811) -> reduces the volume on SDVD300
MUTE (on 8811) -> stops the playback on SDVD300
TV/VID (on 8811) -> SDVD300 goes to root menu
VOL(-) -> SDVD300 goes to title menu
VOL(+) -> fast forward search on SDVD300
PREV -> Prompt to select the chapter to skip to
NUMERICAL BUTTONS -> Skip to a set chapter (which does not match the pressed #)
Any clues? |
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21234 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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TV/0056 is NEC1, device code 4.
Here are the OBCs and EFCs for the functions that you mentioned...
OBC EFC Function
002 183 fast fwd
003 187 title menu
009 057 stop
008 053 vol-
011 059 root menu
026 247 select chapter
016 117 num 0
017 121 num 1
018 119 num 2
019 123 num 3
020 116 num 4
021 120 num 5
022 118 num 6
023 122 num 7
024 245 num 8
025 249 num 9 _________________ Rob
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Capn Trips Expert
Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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Have you tried setup codes:
VCR 0020
DVD 0672
They each use NEC1 device 4 and should be in your 8811. _________________ Beginners - Read this thread first
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johnsfine Site Admin
Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Posts: 4766 Location: Bedford, MA |
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: SONWA SDVD300 DVD player |
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digital_silence wrote: | Someone also mentioned that it is cross-coded (same protocol, but different command set) with LG TVs |
It is same protocol but different commands with a LOT of different devices.
digital_silence wrote: |
POWER (on 8811) -> reduces the volume on SDVD300
MUTE (on 8811) -> stops the playback on SDVD300
TV/VID (on 8811) -> SDVD300 goes to root menu
VOL(-) -> SDVD300 goes to title menu
VOL(+) -> fast forward search on SDVD300
PREV -> Prompt to select the chapter to skip to |
Your FF, Stop, Vol-, and Root menu functions all match the Yamada DVD-2100 in this CCF file:
christophe_ccf.zip
I expect most of your other functions match as well. Below is an extract of the OBC, EFC and description of all the DVD functions in that file.
If this doesn't do it, or some are still missing, you could just make a few test upgrades for NEC1:4 and try all the buttons to see what they do, then remap. If most of these work, but some are missing, the missing functions almost certainly have OBC numbers either in the range 0 to 31 or the range 64 to 95.
00 .. 181 .. PROG.
02 .. 183 .. `Scan_Forward
03 .. 187 .. `Right_Arrow
06 .. 182 .. T.E
08 .. 053 .. {Vol-}
09 .. 057 .. `Stop
10 .. 055 .. `Track_Forwards
11 .. 059 .. MENU
14 .. 054 .. 2
15 .. 058 .. 3
16 .. 117 .. SUBTIT.
17 .. 121 .. 1
18 .. 119 .. 5
19 .. 123 .. 6
20 .. 116 .. SON
21 .. 120 .. 4
22 .. 118 .. 8
23 .. 122 .. 9
24 .. 245 .. ANGLE
25 .. 249 .. 7
26 .. 247 .. 0
27 .. 251 .. TITLE
28 .. 244 .. {Vol+}
29 .. 248 .. `Play
29 .. 248 .. Select
31 .. 250 .. SET UP
65 .. 169 .. {Mute}
73 .. 041 .. `Scan_Back
77 .. 040 .. `Pause
80 .. 101 .. SLOW
81 .. 105 .. CLEAR
82 .. 103 .. DISPLAY
84 .. 100 .. `Up_Arrow
85 .. 104 .. 10
86 .. 102 .. SHUFFLE
88 .. 229 .. `Track_Back
89 .. 233 .. `Left_Arrow
92 .. 228 .. `Right_Arrow
93 .. 232 .. `Down_Arrow |
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digital_silence
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 252
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all suggestions guys. Nearly there.
2 Capn Trips: I've tried the suggested codes for both devices. Both work, meaning that they produce signals that SONWA understands. However, the buttons are shuffled around and some missing, although some are correct.
2 johnsfine: I've created the JP1 upgrade from scratch for your key codes table just above, using the KM, then uploaded it to my 8811. Almost 100% success - all buttons seem fine except some functionality is missing - I can not do some things that I was able to (accidentally!) when I used standard codes as per Capn Trips' suggestion.
This brings up next question: How do I find out the OBCs produced by my 8811 buttons when I program the standard device not upgrade (say 0672 into DVD ?). I have d/loaded the contents of 8811 to IR, but can not find the way to read the button mapping in there.
Or do I do that in KM? But how do I transfer the d/loaded data from IR to KM?
Sorry, this must be a noob question, but yes, I am still the one.
In particular, I want to know what OBC code is produced by {Vol-} button when TV code 0056 is programmed that takes me to the menu which no button from your list above does.
Thanks alot guys for your valuable help. |
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johnsfine Site Admin
Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Posts: 4766 Location: Bedford, MA |
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:08 am Post subject: |
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In my list things like `Right_Arrow represent an english description of a special character in the CCF file. The real meaning usually depends on context.
Notice `Right_Arrow appears for two different commands in my list. Obviously the context matters, but you can't see that context without opening the ccf file's graphics UI in ProntoEdit.
I'm explaining all that because OBC 3, the first `Right_Arrow in my list, is the OBC I think you want (V- from TV/0056).
I forget the URL for the devices spreadsheet that gives EFC numbers for all commands in the 15-1994. That may give you the setup codes you care about. I forget whether there is any accesible data for setup codes not in the 15-1994. |
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mr_d_p_gumby Expert
Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Posts: 1370 Location: Newbury Park, CA |
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Code: | TV/0056 in URC-8811
Button EFC
0 117
1 121
2 119
3 123
4 116
5 120
6 118
7 122
8 245
9 249
Vol UP 183
Vol DOWN 187
MUTE 057
Channel UP 181
Channel DOWN 185
POWER 053
TV/VCR 059
PREV 247
SLEEP 247 |
Code: | DVD/0672 in URC-8811
Button EFC
0 247
1 121
2 054
3 058
4 120
5 119
6 123
7 249
8 118
9 122
Vol UP 053
Vol DOWN 055
MUTE 040
POWER 052
GUIDE 251
ARROW UP 100
ARROW DOWN 232
ARROW LEFT 233
ARROW RIGHT 228
SELECT 248
INFO 038
PLAY 248
PAUSE 186
REW 117
FWD 116
STOP 250
EXIT 250
F-FWD 244
F-REW 245 |
_________________ Mike England |
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digital_silence
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 252
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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2 johnsfine: Thanx, I'll give 03 a go. (What's 15-1994 anyway?)
2 mr_d_p_gumby: Thank you! Now, just to educate me: can you tell me how exactly you've found these codes?
And even more noob Q:
How do I calculate EFC from OBC and vice versa? Is it a fixed algorithm or depends on remote model, protocol etc. etc. ? |
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johnsfine Site Admin
Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Posts: 4766 Location: Bedford, MA |
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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digital_silence wrote: | How do I calculate EFC from OBC and vice versa? Is it a fixed algorithm or depends on remote model, protocol etc. etc. ? |
Depends on the protocol. In rare cases also depends on the remote model.
There is a single most common algorithm that is used by this (NEC1) and many other protocols. There are tables available in various online locations for that algorithm.
There is an EFC calculator in IR.EXE (tools menu) for four of the more common algorithms (this one is "LSB comp") useful if you know which algorithm goes with your protocol and it is one of those four.
But the most robust way is to use the Functions sheet of KM or RM to do the translation after filling in the setup sheet with the remote model, protocol name, and even device numbers (which in rare cases affect the EFC to OBC translation). |
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mr_d_p_gumby Expert
Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Posts: 1370 Location: Newbury Park, CA |
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:42 am Post subject: |
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digital_silence wrote: | (What's 15-1994 anyway?) | It's the "founding father" remote that started the JP1 group. digital_silence wrote: | Now, just to educate me: can you tell me how exactly you've found these codes? | Err, well, umm... If I told you I'd have to, well, you know. Seriously, there are several methods that one can use to do this (some of which use John's excellent DecodeIR dll), but most are too complex for a beginner to tackle. _________________ Mike England |
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The Robman Site Owner
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 21234 Location: Chicago, IL |
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: |
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digital_silence wrote: | Now, just to educate me: can you tell me how exactly you've found these codes? |
A simple way for you to find them would be to keymove the button in question to another button, then download the memory and take a look in IR.exe to see what EFC was used. _________________ Rob
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digital_silence
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 252
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Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Fair enough, mr_d_p_gumby.
Then maybe you can also post here the OBC or EFC set for VCR/0020, in particular the URC8811's STOP button code in that mode, as that seems to be the button that controls the power on/off for SONWA, and it does not appear in any configuration above in this topic. Thanks in advance. |
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