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Ube_Astard · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 185 Location: Stockport UK

I have learned the buttons for a new LCD TV I have but for some reason cannot get the menu button working. I have tried all 3 EFC options shown in the IR learn and am now puzzled as to what I am doing wrong or missed.

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=3398

Capn Trips · Expert Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990

Some OTHER learned signals would have been useful to compare, but upon first inspection, I would say that the menu button uses RC5 protocol, device number 1, whilst your upgrade uses RC5 protocol, with NO device number (default 224).

So if all of the other functions work, i.e. use no device code, then you need to make a separate upgrade for just this one function, and keymove it in, or make your upgrade using the RC5/5x combo protocol.
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The Robman · Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject:

You haven't entered any device codes in the Setup sheet of KM. If the rest of the buttons in this upgrade work, it means that they use a device code of 0. The learned signal in the IR file that you posted uses a device code of 1, so you would need to enter 1 as either device2 or device 3, then you would need to set the byte2 column correctly. As you're using EFCs rather than OBCs (which always makes things more confusing with protocols like RC5), you would need to use EFC 171 (for device2) or EFC 195 (for device3).
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Ube_Astard · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 185 Location: Stockport UK

Thanks very much for the help with that one. Just one final thing then, I have another device that I cannot get all the buttons working. I have uploaded the upgrade and also the learn which contains the numeric buttons and a function that I cannot get to work. Am I using the correct protocol?

http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=3403

Thanks in advance...

johnsfine · Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:52 am Post subject:

I have once again misplaced my program for opening .rar files. Some other JP1 experts may not bother at all with .rar files. You would get help faster if you posted a .zip file instead.

Ube_Astard · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 185 Location: Stockport UK

Sorry about that guys, I thought I had zipped it but Winzip does both Rar and Zip. Anyway, its resubmitted so please look again.
Thanx

johnsfine · Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject:

Now I think we need more details of the question. Mainly what did you test and what didn't work?

You posted a .ir file with 11 learned signals, the digits 0 to 9 and TV/Vid. They are all NECx2 protocol, device 7, Subdevice 7. The decodes of NEC2 are incorrect decodes.

You posted a .txt file building the setup code TV/0940 with the right protocol and device numbers, the right OBC numbers for the digits, and the "source 1" function matching the signal learned on TV/vid, plus it has many other functions.

In the buttons sheet of KM, you didn't assign "source 1" to any button.

In your .ir file, you didn't have your TV/0940 upgrade at all.

If you tested "source 1" and it didn't work, you should post the .ir and .txt files of what you tested (not that you shouldn't have posted the .ir file of learned signals, those were ALSO relevent).

Ube_Astard · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 185 Location: Stockport UK

Capn Trips · Expert Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990

Well, the first thing I see is that your KM upgrade is for a URC-7541/7544, while you're using an 8910.
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Amazon Firestick
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Ube_Astard · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 185 Location: Stockport UK

Capn Trips · Expert Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990

Do the learned functions work from the 9910?

Did you assign the device type and the device number correctly to a device button on the 7544?

P.S. If you used the Code Search template from the #1 Code Search FAQ, a lot of the stupid questions would not need to be asked.
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RCVR: Onkyo TX-SR875; Integra DTR 40.3
DVD/VCR: Pioneer DV-400VK (multi-region DVD), Sony BDP-S350 (Blu-ray), Toshiba HD-A3 (HD-DVD), Panasonic AG-W1 (Multi-system VCR);
Laserdisc: Pioneer CLD-D704.
Amazon Firestick
tape deck: Pioneer CT 1380WR (double cassette deck)
(But I still have to get up for my beer)

Ube_Astard · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 185 Location: Stockport UK

I have posted all the relevant files now (learns, upgrade, and IR for 7544).
The learns on the 9910 do work, yes I have assigned them correctly on the 7544. I just need to realize why the numeric buttons wont work whilst all the other butons do. The 7544 is not faulty as they work on other device upgrades.
Regards....

ElizabethD · Advanced Member Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 2348

There maybe a clue in few things I noticed. An EXPERT is needed for this one.
1. When I try to add the KM upgrade section to IR, IR wants to default to VCR.
2. The KM upgrade code reads: Upgrade Code 0 = 13 AC (TV/0940) keymap-master Device Upgrade (KM v8.39)
3. When the same NECx2 is being rebuilt in RM, Upgrade code resolves to: Upgrade code 0 = 03 AC (TV/0940) (RM v1.54)
4. RDF(1.25) file EO40EO40 (URC-7541_7544 1K Version).rdf - devices types are TV=1, VCR=2 - is that relevant?
5. On the General tab in IR, TV is first.
6. Using freshly unzipped 7544 file, when I try to reopen the IR file there is a conflict at $15 fixed address.
And what does it mean in KM "DigitMap enabled" I can never remember that one.
Is this remote S3C8 or with + at the end? Is it using the correct NECx2 protocol?
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Ube_Astard · Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 185 Location: Stockport UK

Thanks for trying to help ElizabethD, but it looks like help maybe tired on this one.

gfb107 · Expert Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Posts: 3411 Location: Cary, NC

When you say "the numeric buttons don't work", does that mean they are sending the wrong signal (for example 0 sends 6, or 1 send 4, or 7 sends 9) or that you get no reaction from the device at all?

I'm not familiar with the URC-7544. Does it have a visible indication that it is sending a signal, such as an LED that flashes? If not, and you have a digital camera, you can look at the IR emitter using the camera's LCD view finder to see if it is actually transitting a signal when you press the numeric keys.

Some other thoughts on trouble shooting this:

Use your 9910 to learn the signals being sent by the 7544, and examine those to see if they are what we think they should be.
Convert your upgrade for use with the 9910 and install it there, and see if it works correctly.

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