JP1 Remotes

Hi guys.
I have a 8910 (no jp1 cord yet) and I have everything installed on it that I want.

I have TV, VCR, 301 dishnet address1, 501 dishnet address2, Viewsat Vs2000, DVD player, and Stereo. What I need is I want the TV volume buttons to controll all my devices untill my stereo is on, then the stereo controls all device volumes. Is this possible ? (right now every device has its own volume control)
thanks

Yes it is possible, and is quite easy using the extender. But, you'll need a JP1 cable in order to do it.

vcxs wrote:What I need is I want the TV volume buttons to controll all my devices untill my stereo is on, then the stereo controls all device volumes. Is this possible ? (right now every device has its own volume control)

Are you saying that you want the volume buttons to default to the current device mode (ie, in SAT mode they'll work your SAT receiver, in DVD mode they will work the DVD player, etc) until such time that you turn on the stereo, then at that point you want the volume buttons to work the stereo, regardless of what mode the remote is in?

If so, like Greg said, this is fairly simple if you use an extender. Without an extender, it would require a special protocol. The VPT Changer special protocol let's you change which device the VPT points to, but I'm not sure if it lets you turn VPT off, which is what you would need it to do when the stereo is off.

But regardless, you would need to use JP1 to do any of these solutions.

Thanks guy for the info.

I have just one more newbie question. How many learned keys are possible in the 8910 before memory is full ? (my old rca rcr815 had 34 learned keys before memory was full)
thanks again for all the help.

It depends a bit on the actual signals being learned, but I wouldn't count on more than 25.

vcxs wrote:I have just one more newbie question. How many learned keys are possible in the 8910 before memory is full ?

The bigger question is, why do you care? If you use JP1 to program the remote, the learning limitation is meaningless.

Rob, I know that you have been here a long time, but you do need to cut some slack here in the newb section. Your question on "WHY DO YOU CARE?" is pretty wierd to ask. 1st of all , do you own a Viewsat? If you did you would know that 1232 does not come close to putting all the buttons in, just the basic few. Missing for the viewsat is F1,F2, F3,F4 etc. I used 8 or 9 learned buttons after installing 1232. Now do you own a dishnet501 at address2 ? Using 5224 code I was still missing com skip forward 30 seconds and rewind com skip 10 seconds, and the pvr button. All had to be learned. Now lets move on to a older pioneer audio reciever. Got some buttons to work with a generic code for pioneer but the rest had to be learned.

Now I had to ask how many learned keys are possible and gfb107 answered the question exactly the way it was needed. Not like you did.
But thanks for trying so hard to give a good answer.

thanks gfb107 for your help.

vcxs wrote:Rob, I know that you have been here a long time, but you do need to cut some slack here in the newb section. Your question on "WHY DO YOU CARE?" is pretty wierd to ask. 1st of all , do you own a Viewsat? If you did you would know that 1232 does not come close to putting all the buttons in, just the basic few. Missing for the viewsat is F1,F2, F3,F4 etc. I used 8 or 9 learned buttons after installing 1232. Now do you own a dishnet501 at address2 ? Using 5224 code I was still missing com skip forward 30 seconds and rewind com skip 10 seconds, and the pvr button. All had to be learned. Now lets move on to a older pioneer audio reciever. Got some buttons to work with a generic code for pioneer but the rest had to be learned.

Now I had to ask how many learned keys are possible and gfb107 answered the question exactly the way it was needed. Not like you did.
But thanks for trying so hard to give a good answer.

thanks gfb107 for your help.

I'm sorry that you feel that my answer wasn't helpful, as hard as I might try, you can't please all the people all the time.

I was trying to demonstrate to you that once you're a JP1 user the amount of learning memory in a remote is totally irrelevant, but it seems that you missed my point. Due to the nature of your last response, I think it's better for me to just drop out of this and let you figure things out for yourself. Good luck.

I think your missing what he is saying. For instance learn the missing keys and download the ir file in ir. Look at the learned functions, leave ir open with the learned keys in it. Now open km or rm and in it open the 1232 file and add the functions efc that ir has in the learned keys. Now save that new 1232 file and it has the functions you learned in it as an upgrade. Load that new upgrade into the remote via ir. Now you can delete the learned functions it was missing because you just added them to the upgrade.

Rob's point is that for a JP1 user, learning is just the first step towards either building a device upgrade of creating some keymoves. The learned signals are then deleted and are not used to control the device.

The learning limit is just a very minor annoyance for a JP1 user. It just means it may take 2 or 3 learn-decode cycles to get all the information for a complete and accurate device upgrade.

Thanks guys. I'm understanding more about the jp1 remotes. But not having a jp1 cable limits me to the learned key capacity limit for now. Thats all my question was asking for.

Well, you did ask in the JP1 Beginner's forum, which implies you are using JP1, which in turns means you have a JP1 cable. But you don't, so you're not.

vcxs wrote:Thanks guys. I'm understanding more about the jp1 remotes. But not having a jp1 cable limits me to the learned key capacity limit for now. Thats all my question was asking for.

You entitled this thread "Time to get my feet wet" and you posted it in a JP1 forum, rather than the non-JP1 forum, which would let most people to the conclusion that you are considering JP1, which in turn would lead those people to offer you JP1 advice.

Had you been clearer in your postings, we might have described to you some of the other options that you have, other than learning, to resolve your remote issues (and there are other ways to address them).

AND I still thank everyone for the help that has been given. Sorry for posting in the wrong area.