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8910 extender. How to retain three keys during SET_CHAN_KEY?

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:55 pm
by MJ
I am attempting to have my channel switching done only by the VCR while retaining the Sleep, Info, and TV/Video functions on the TV set.

I believe that the mega way to do it is to keymove the VCRs ch+/- as well as numerals onto the TV. Thats at least 12 keymoves, but I could leave out the SET_CHAN command to get one byte back. :)

Is there an efficient way to preserve the three keys from the CHAN group ?

MJ

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 11:47 pm
by usblipitor
Are the "sets" (pip, transport, menu, etc) of keys defined in the .rdf? Can keys be moved out of one set and into another? Or is this coded in the .asm? Or is it an unchangable feature of the remote? Just curious! I looked in the .rdf and didn't see anything like this defined there...

LKP may help

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 12:38 am
by MJ
I just read another posting where LKP was used to atain a compromise. http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewt ... lkp+device

I however just posted my own LKP inquiry. This means that Im :? about LKP right now. Ive used the keymove option for now and I'm calling it a night...

MJ

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:42 am
by sfhub
usblipitor wrote:Are the "sets" (pip, transport, menu, etc) of keys defined in the .rdf? Can keys be moved out of one set and into another? Or is this coded in the .asm? Or is it an unchangable feature of the remote? Just curious! I looked in the .rdf and didn't see anything like this defined there...
Which buttons comprise a particular keyset is hardcoded in the remote.
That's what people who know more than me have told me.

Re: 8910 extender. How to retain three keys during SET_CHAN_

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 8:09 am
by johnsfine
MJ wrote:I am attempting to have my channel switching done only by the VCR while retaining the Sleep, Info, and TV/Video functions on the TV set.
Are you using all 8 device modes, or do you have a spare one?

If you have a spare device mode, you assign that device mode the setup code of the VCR and into that device mode keymove the TV's Sleep, Info and TV/Video keys. Then in the TV's select macro you select that "spare" device mode for channel keys (which I guess costs two extra bytes in that macro).

That's three keymoves plus 2 bytes, vs. your 12 keymoves (but only if one of your 8 device modes is otherwise unused).

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 8:17 am
by johnsfine
sfhub wrote:Which buttons comprise a particular keyset is hardcoded in the remote.
True, but ...

The 6012 has two extra transport keys (beyong the usual 6 that most models have) which I find very convenient. But some moron at UEI put those two keys in some other group, not the transport group. I found that so annoying that I added extra code to the extender to override the group assignment of those two keys.

I think it costs about 5 bytes of extender code per key to override the assignment, and it might be tricky to add depending on the present sizes of the extender sections, but it can be done if the group assignment of a few keys annoys you enough to be worth fixing.

Re: 8910 extender. How to retain three keys during SET_CHAN_

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:26 pm
by MJ
johnsfine wrote:
MJ wrote:I am attempting to have my channel switching done only by the VCR while retaining the Sleep, Info, and TV/Video functions on the TV set.
Are you using all 8 device modes, or do you have a spare one?

If you have a spare device mode, you assign that device mode the setup code of the VCR and into that device mode keymove the TV's Sleep, Info and TV/Video keys. Then in the TV's select macro you select that "spare" device mode for channel keys (which I guess costs two extra bytes in that macro).

That's three keymoves plus 2 bytes, vs. your 12 keymoves (but only if one of your 8 device modes is otherwise unused).
Thanks a lot for the tip. Luckily I do have a spare device key.

MJ