JP1 Remotes

krisdz · Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 38

That means I could use on my CAT48 the DSM special protocol and device code TV/1033 from those remotes listed?
Kris

krisdz · Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 38

Is so quiet out here.
To bad, because I don’t know enough about JP1 stuff.
Don’t let me down please.
Kris

Capn Trips · Expert Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990

krisdz · Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 38

The remote is 100% S3C8+
Acording to the spreadsheet http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=file&file_id=1768
the TV/1033 is the device type and code for IR.EXE.

Upgrade code 0 = 0C 4F (TV/1103)
FC 00 01
End

My question is which remote I should use to imitate my S3C8+?
The Outlaw remote listed in the spread sheet is older version and the DSM is not working on the newer one.
Kris

The Robman · Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:34 am Post subject:

The problem here is that your remote is not yet officially supported by JP1 as yours is the first one that we've seen. It appears that, internally at least, your remote is the same as the Gateway TV remote that we've seen a few times, but that one isn't that well supported either.

Therefore, there may be a few things that you would like to do, such as DSMs, that you won't be able to until somebody figures out the necessary details.
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krisdz · Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 38

The Outlaw 990 remote is little bit different from Gateway remote.
The button naming and order is different.
The Gateway has learning capability.
Otherwise they are identical. I upgraded it using the modified Gateway RDF
Why the DSM could be different for the various S3C8+ remotes?
Kris

The Robman · Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:36 pm Post subject:

I would expect the button labels to be different as these are done custom for each OEM that orders the remote. Learning is offered as an option to the OEMs but they have to pay extra for it, so obviously some companies are going to not opt for it. It looks like UEI uses a 1k EEPROM when the learning option is not selected.

It would be possible to convert your remote into a learning remote if you wanted to. This document describes how to can convert a non-learning Cat48 remote into a learning remote.

Capn Trips · Expert Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990

krisdz · Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 38

Rob, Capn Trips
Thanks for the link. Could you provide some directions? How to bait these one or two addresses?
Kris

krisdz · Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 38

Hi,
That what I done yesterday. Let me know if I’m on correct track.
My RDF for Outlaw 990 remote don’t had the Special Protocols entry.
I copied those entries from the 8910 RDF
[SpecialProtocols]
DSM=01FC
LDKP=01F9
ModeName=01F8
Multiplex=01FE
Pause=01FB
ToadTog=0181

[Extender]
DeviceSetup=MISC/1800,ToadTog
DeviceSetup=MISC/1106,LDKP
DeviceSetup=MISC/1104,Pause
DeviceSetup=MISC/1103,DSM
DeviceSetup=TV/1101,Multiplexer
DeviceSetup=MISC/1107,ModeName

And pasted to my RDF.
“Spcl Prot Fns” tab materialized in IR.
Then I installed new protocol for 8910 from the special-protocols spreadsheet:
Upgrade protocol 0 = 01 FC (S3C8)
00 00 01 E4 03 82 50 C0 50 C1 50 C2 50 C3 50 C4
C6 CA 16 7A 70 CB 70 CA 70 C4 70 C3 70 C2 30 C0
End

And new device for 8910 from the special-protocols spreadsheet:
Upgrade code 0 = 0C 4F (TV/1103)
FC 00 01
End

In the “Spcl Prot Fns” tab I assigned the:
Device to AMP.
Key to button 1.
Type to DSM (TV:1103).
Inserted Macro Keys -> TV follow by Power.
In the “General” tab I allocated the AMP key to type TV, code 1103
Then I uploaded it to my Outlaw 990 remote.
I was hopping when I press device key AMP and then 1 key my TV will power up.
But nothing happens however the remote operates all components as it suppose.
I know that the 8910 has the same S3C8+ processor as my Outlaw 990.
Any thoughts?
Kris

Capn Trips · Expert Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 3990

steveholtam · Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 2

Hi all. I am getting ready to program my Outlaw 990's remote via JP1, and after reading this thread I am a bit confused. The 990's remote is a Catalyst48, or this one -

http://www.uei.com/category.php?page_id=66&featured_product=36

Is this a S3C8+ model remote or not? If it is, am I out of luck in regards to all the jp1 software? I am looking to create macros. Would it be easier to just pull the Outlaws recording into another JP1 remote of the current style?

Thanks ALL!

Steve

The Robman · Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject:

There are several different flavors of Cat48, so we can't tell just from a picture which version you have. The original Cat48's were S3C8, then they switched to S3C8+ and I believe they have recently switched to the HCS08 flash processor. I'm guessing that your remote is a S3C8+, but this is a good thing, as S3C8+ remotes are the current JP1 standard.
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tj · Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 5

I don't know which flavor is with the 990 but think it is the same as with my 1070. I use the one in this post http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5935 and it is working great. I use remote master and ir.exe with it. Have had no problems with it at all. I have not done anything special with it but program to control all my HT stuff. I do wish someone would break down and build an extender for it but will just wait and see.

steveholtam · Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 2

Thanks Rob and Tj. I guess I will just try it and see what happens! I was just worried after reading about the new Motorolla chip and the problems that krisdz was having with his remotem that I was going to out of luck before I even got started.

Steve