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woody
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 Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 5:18 pm Post subject: triple dragon help |
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1. Device: Triple Dragon DBS-3000
2. Type of device: FTA sat receiver
3. Year: 2004
4. JP1 Remote model: 15-2117
5. JP1 user? yes
6. Still have original remote? yes
7. Checked the file section? yes
8. Checked Pronto file section (at R/C)? yes
9. Partially working setup code? no
10. Learning remote question? tried building upgrade but most would not work
here is my attempt and learned files it is uncomplete but if you can point me in right direction
thaxs
http://images.cyberdeck.us/matrix/TD.zip |
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The bi-phase signal that you captured is not recognized by DecodeIR so this will need a new protocol built using PB, and you'll probably need help from an expert to do that.
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woody
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| Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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so basically is this a lost cause or just something that gonna take me lots more work and reading on bi-phase remotes?
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Capn Trips
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| Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt that the cause is lost, but you will have to be patient until one of the decoding and protocol-building experts gets around to .... uhhh ... decoding and building you a protocol. Unfortunately, I ain't one of them.
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The Robman
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That's exactly right, so feel free to bump this thread every so often if nobody's jumped in to help. I normally do these custom protocols but I don't have much free time right now, so I'm hoping that someone else will do it, but if it doesn't get done, I will do it.
If you want to take a crack at it yourself, here's the guide to using PB...
http://www.hifi-remote.com/files/help/Protocol-Builder.zip
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The Robman
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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I have created an upgrade for you. I don't have any remotes here, so it's completely untested. If it doesn't work, I can test it at home to see what's wrong with it.
The '0', '8' and FFWD buttons were too badly learned for me to get anything useful for them, so I would need you to re-learn those buttons in order to include them in the upgrade. While you're at it, could you also re-learn the '4' and '7' buttons.
Upgrade Code 0 = 7F D0 (SAT/2000) Triple Dragon (KM v8.37)
FF 00 A0 86 58 79 95 00 00 00 20 46 20 67 20 86
00 A6 20 C7 20 E8 01 26 00 00 21 68 22 E9 22 C8
22 47 22 87 22 68 25 A9 25 69 00 00 23 EA 24 47
24 27 24 06
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Upgrade protocol 0 = 01 FF (S3C8+) Triple Dragon (PB v3.11)
43 8A 22 8B 14 8E 81 10 08 08 00 83 00 6F 00 83
00 6F A6 CC FF FF FF FF 04 8D 01 46
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woody
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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thank you
will try ths when i get home from work. i will redo those keys plus a few more
that i had not the room for at the time and wasnt sure if would be any use
once again thanks for doing this
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While you're at it, if any of the buttons are not what they appear (eg, you learn "HOME" to the PREV button) could you add a note stating what the buttons is please.
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woody
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| Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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for some reason could not get update loaded into my remote. upgrade protocol gives error message and erases when trying to put into ir 6.15
i went and learned about all the keys on this remote made notes on what the buttons are suppose to be also added a pic of the remote just in case
once again all commands learned on a 2117 remote
thank you again
woodee
http://images.cyberdeck.us/matrix/td2.zip |
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The Robman
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| woody wrote: | | for some reason could not get update loaded into my remote. upgrade protocol gives error message and erases when trying to put into ir 6.15 |
Could you be more specific (exact messages) as I've never heard of a protocol erasing itself before (and I'm able to add it to IR).
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woody
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:01 am Post subject: |
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when i paste into ir i get this eror message
there is data at the end of the key moves/macros entry that will be ignored do you want to continue?
this is how i entered data cut/paste code only into ir 6.15
did i do it incorrect?
thank you for your time
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whompus
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:24 am Post subject: |
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| It looks like you are attempting to paste the upgrade protocol into the keymove section. You add the upgrade under devices tab and the upgrade protocol under the protocol tab. |
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woody
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:42 am Post subject: |
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PLEASE IGNORE THIS POST AS ITS COMPLETLY USELESS
except for possible aid to someone who searches same error
i had tried that way as well and gotten
invaild character in input
so then I cut it a bit and paste this in
Upgrade Code 0 = 7F D0 (SAT/2000) Triple Dragon (KM v8.37)
FF 00 A0 86 58 79 95 00 00 00 20 46 20 67 20 86
00 A6 20 C7 20 E8 01 26 00 00 21 68 22 E9 22 C8
22 47 22 87 22 68 25 A9 25 69 00 00 23 EA 24 47
24 27 24 06
43 8A 22 8B 14 8E 81 10 08 08 00 83 00 6F 00 83
00 6F A6 CC FF FF FF FF 04 8D 01 46
it sets ir up as a device but my remote will not reconize the update and retains old programed code
woody
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woody
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:28 am Post subject: |
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sorry my stupidity never did a direct cut paste from text for upgrade always have imported from a km file now see I had to paste bottem half in protocol area
code works GREAT
these are the buttons that have problems
5 repeats sometimes
6 is slow to take but works if hold down longer
7 repeats when hit al the time
also I mistakenly had the green and yellow buttons swaped in labeling notes
I just can't thank you enough for your work
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Capn Trips
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| Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| woody wrote: | | sorry my stupidity never did a direct cut paste from text for upgrade always have imported from a km file now see I had to paste bottem half in protocol area |
Although it's likely not explicitly stated anywhere, you really don't have to individually enter each field in the Device and Protocol upgrade pop-ups in IR. If you Copy to the clipboard exactly what is in the post for Protocol upgrade:
| Quote: | Upgrade protocol 0 = 01 FF (S3C8+) Triple Dragon (PB v3.11)
43 8A 22 8B 14 8E 81 10 08 08 00 83 00 6F 00 83
00 6F A6 CC FF FF FF FF 04 8D 01 46
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Then in IR on the Protocol tabbed worksheet, select the "Add" button on the bottom, just right click in the top section of the pop-up "upgrade protocol" box and click "paste" and all of the appropriate information will populate the appropriate fields.
Similarly for the Device upgrade:
| Quote: | Upgrade Code 0 = 7F D0 (SAT/2000) Triple Dragon (KM v8.37)
FF 00 A0 86 58 79 95 00 00 00 20 46 20 67 20 86
00 A6 20 C7 20 E8 01 26 00 00 21 68 22 E9 22 C8
22 47 22 87 22 68 25 A9 25 69 00 00 23 EA 24 47
24 27 24 06
End
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In IR on the Device tabbed worksheet, select the "Add" button on the bottom, just right click in the top section of the pop-up "upgrade device" box and click "paste" and all of the appropriate information will populate the appropriate fields.
This should be precisely what you do when you copy and upgrade over from KM or RM, as well.
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