JP1 Remotes

alxgdwn · Joined: 11 Jul 2005 Posts: 8

I have a combo TV/VCR/DVD player: Toshiba MW27FP1 that responds to the following codes on my URC-6131 (TV-0156, VCR-0045, and DVD-1045). The original remote control, which I have has two buttons to switch between TV/VCR and DVD modes that are in none of the setup codes. OFA says there are no advanced codes for these buttons on my remote.

I have a learning remote and know the TV/VCR button is NEC Device 68 and OBC 17, and the DVD is NEC1 Device 68 OBC 32. I want to add these to the existing TV setup code 0156.

Rather than relearning all of those codes to create a new device with KeyMaster, I'm planning to create a two new devices (since they have different protocols), one with each control, and then do a key move within IR. Is this the right approach? Can I somehow load the original 0156 and modify it? And finally, why does NEC appear as a protocol within IR, but not as a selection within KeyMaster. Thanks!

The Robman · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:32 pm Post subject:

The "NEC" decode is probably the result of a learning mistake, it's most likely also an "NEC1" signal.

If NEC1 device 68 (with no sub-device) is the right decode, you don't need to create a dummy upgrade, you can use either of the following built-in setup codes:

VCR/0045
CD/0437
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alxgdwn · Joined: 11 Jul 2005 Posts: 8

Thanks for you assistance Rob and John! I'm still having trouble moving the key, however. Here's what I've done:

1. Verified that VCR/0045 with EFC 121 and 213 work (set the VCR button on my remote to setup code 0045 and then hit "set" followed by 121 and got the desired response). They do! (Still not sure how Rob knew NEC1 Dev 68 used this code)
2. Programmed this button using the remote to buttons (PIP and Swap) under the VCR Device button.
3. Downloaded from the remote into IR and viewed
4. Cloned the key moves, and only changed the bound device key to TV since I want VCR/0045 EFC 121 to work when I have TV selected.
5. Uploaded to remote

Unfortunately this does not work. I did notice a few things I thought were strange:
a) the EFC/Key name from the key moves I saw in step three weren't 121 and 213 as I expected, they were "201*(Use Hex)" and "100*(Use Hex)" respectively which may be why I had trouble entering them directly from within IR.
b) Also, when I changed the Bound Device from VCR to TV in step 4, it changed the Hex and EFC names. I can't manually change these to make them the same as what worked under the VCR device.

I apologize if this is a silly mistake, but I could find little documentation about how to properly perform key moves.

The Robman · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:40 am Post subject:

I'm not sure why things are getting messed up in IR.exe but I do know that keymoves are stored differently in the URC-6131 than how they are stored in most other remotes.

So, here's what I suggest that you do.

1) Assign VCR/0045 to the TV device button (using IR.exe) and upload to the remote.
2) Program the 2 keymoves in TV mode.
3) Download using IR.exe and change the TV button back to TV/0156, but leave the keymoves in place.
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alxgdwn · Joined: 11 Jul 2005 Posts: 8

That did the trick! It's a good workaround for programming key moves for the URC-6131. Thank you very much for the support.

johnsfine · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:26 pm Post subject:

Every time someone needs help with a 6131 I forget that KeyMoves are trickier than with other JP1 remotes, and I tend to give the usual "just use a KeyMove" advice.

I'm sure I'll forget again next time. Sorry.

"Just use a KeyMove" was technically correct, but should have been immediately suplimented with a work around (as Rob gave above) for the problems inherent in defining such a KeyMove through IR.

The Robman · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:30 pm Post subject:

However, I thought we'd already fixed IR to handle the URC-6131 keymoves, so it should have worked.
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alxgdwn · Joined: 11 Jul 2005 Posts: 8

The IR.exe I was shipped with the JP1 cable I ordered in June was ver. 5.05 which must be very old. I just downloaded the newest version (6.15 at the time of this post) and IR.exe worked perfectly assigning a few other buttons so the workaround should not be necessary.

(I could kick myself for not downloading directly from the site, and wish I had been sent the most recent copy by the JP1 cable assembler. Hope this info helps you sleep better.)

Thanks again.

The Robman · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:32 pm Post subject:

So we had fixed it, I shoulda asked what version you were using.
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