JP1 Remotes

Is there a way to use the Key Move in IR.EXE to assign a macro (that I set up as a shifted numeric) to a specific unshifted key under a particular device? Also is there a way to edit or add to the learned key area through IR.EXE?

Is there a way to use the Key Move in IR.EXE to assign a macro (that I set up as a shifted numeric) to a specific unshifted key under a particular device?

That can't be done directly, there are special device/protocols for "Device Specific Macros" (DSM) which enables you to have macros programmed through the keymoves which apply to just a specific device. This normally comes bundled with the extender packages for specific remotes. Which remote do you have?

Also is there a way to edit or add to the learned key area through IR.EXE?

Not as such. The learned area in IR actually shows an attempted decode of the learned data, you can use this decode information with KM or RM to build new device upgrades which take up less memory the learned signals. (Most remotes only allow quite a small number of learned singals). Device upgrades are also more flexible than learned signals since you can assigned extra EFC's for which no button exists on your orignal remote. All of this is covered in the various FAQs and documents on this site, so you probably need to read those first.

If it's a specific device you are trying to get programmed, then read the #1 code search FAQ in the code search forum, this may help your find an upgrade someone else has already setup.

holabr wrote:Is there a way to use the Key Move in IR.EXE to assign a macro (that I set up as a shifted numeric) to a specific unshifted key under a particular device?

In situations like this, it would probably be better to describe what it is you are trying to do, rather than to see if the way you want to do it is possible.

Reading between the lines it sounds like what you want to do is program a macro that only works in one device mode, is that correct?

For non-JP1 users, you can do this by programming the macro, then overriding it with keymoves or learned signals in all of the other device modes.

For JP1 users, you can use the DSM (device specific macro) special protocol. This is a method whereby you program a macro to a non-existant button (which we call phantom buttons) then you invoke the macro using a keymove. DSMs are not tied to extenders, so you don't need to first install an extender in order to use DSMs.

Robman,

You are exactly right, I would like to program a device specific macro so that with one button (TV/Video) I can change the source on my TV, set the proper input on my receiver and switch my DVD/VCR to the proper mode.

I am a little confused about your comment on DSM not being connected to extenders. When I went to the JP1 files section the DSM was included in the extender for the RS15-2116. Can you point me in the right direction to understand the difference between an extender and a special purpose protocol?

There is a special protocols folder in the file area connected to the Yahoo JP1 forum.

For some models of remote there is a DSM special protocol that is not connected to the extender.

I think it's a better idea to use the extender. The extender has many useful features beyond DSM and it's DSM is better than the stand alone DSM.

You can do the same by putting a macro on a macro key or a shift key. This does not require the use of an extender.

For instance I use Shift-DVD to set up every thing to watch DVD. Similarly I have one for Shhift-CBL.