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[aclinml]

I'm running the second extender in my URC-7800 Cinema 7, and was wondering if I have the ability to use a Device Specific Macro (DSM) in it. Is this possible in the C7? If so, what do I need?

Thanks,
Mike

[Mark Pierson]

You'll find what you need on the special-protocols.zip spreadsheet.
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Mark

[aclinml]

I'll ask a new question on using DSM tomorrow at work. I set one up, but when I hit the 'key move' key, the remote goes into a loop. The red light stays on hard until I remove the battery.

Heck, I'll go ahead and ask it here....

I put a macro on the SHIFT-UP key. Next, did a key move on the SURROUND key (in TV mode) using the TV-1103 code, and it gave me the hex command for shift-up as $B1.

Everything goes into IR ok, and when I push the SURROUND button when in other device modes, it does nothing (as it should) but when I go into TV mode and press the surround button, it goes into a hard loop.

Any ideas???? Reminder, I'm using a URC-7800 C7 with extender 2 loaded.

Thanks,
Mike

[pgk]

I'm not sure you've given enough information, does the macro on shift-up work on it's own? A loop within the Macro would seem to be the most likely source of the problem you describe.

If it does work on it's own then you could try chaning the DSM command to something simple you know works and is obvious that it has worked (e.g. Mute). Trying that would eliminate the DSM as being the problem.

If that still doesn't get to the bottom of it, I would post your .IR file to the diagnosis area and post a link to it here (after reading the Sticky on posting Yahoo links of course.)

[aclinml]

Great ideas, PGK. When I get home from work, I'll try both those ideas.

Mike

[aclinml]

Well, I created a simple macro on the shift-Display button, that does a mute on the TV. I tested the macro itself, and it does work. Next I create the keymove in DVD mode on the MACRO button with the DSM. It defines it fine, but when I hit the MACRO button, the red light comes on hard.

I don't see how it could be a loop in the macro itself. I have loaded the config txt file to the dianosis area here;

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jp1/files/Diagnosis%20Area/Mike_DSM.txt

Any help is appreciated.
Mike

[pgk]

Mike,

The IR file helped. The problem is that although you have setup the DSM device TV/1103 you haven't setup the protocol which it refers to ($1FC) (Or at least if you have it's not showing in the Protocols tab)

You need to copy the "Protocol Upgrade" section from the Special-Protocols spreadsheet and paste it into the Add dialog from the protocols tab in IR.

Hope this helps,
Paul.

Edit: I notice that the $180 protocol has a note saying it's the DSM protocol, whereas it looks to me like it's the protocol to start the extender, so don't delete it!

[aclinml]

I think you might have nailed this, PGK. I sure thought I remembered cutting and pasting twice from the spreadsheet, but it sure looks like I missed the protocol.

I'll try again tonight after work, and update you with a status.

Many thanks,
Mike

[aclinml]

OK. I got around the LOOP problem by copying in the protocol and device settings from the worksheek. Now, once I have set it up again, and tested the macro by itself, it works. When I hit the key-move key, the red light lights up VERY dimmy and very short, almost like the power was cut off right when it started to light the bulb.

The HEX code the spreadsheet generated and the HEX code that the ADD KEYMOVE generated were identical.

Again, this is over my head.

I've put another copy of my config in the diagnosis area here;

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jp1/files/Diagnosis%20Area/Mike_DSM#2.txt

Mike

[pgk]

Mike,

I took another look at your file and nothing obvious (to me) seems wrong, the only thing I can think is that the DSM protocol is not totally compatible with the 2nd extender, but this is outside of my knowledge so hopefully someone else will take a look and give you some pointers.

Good luck,
Paul.

[Ellen]

I think the DSM doesn't work with the 7800.

[pgk]

Thanks Ellen, that probably clears up Mike's problem.

Based on the post there suggesting the use of SelNextMac7800, I've created an alternate DSM for 7800 extender (can easily be changed to non extender by changing one instruciton) based on the code for that. I haven't got a 7800 so if someone wants to try it and let me know then that'd be good, if it works I'll upload the PB file to yahoo. Like the spreadsheet version it only allows a single hex code in the keymove, which should then refer to the full macro on a phantom (or whatever)

You still need the device upgrade from the spreadsheet, but try replacing the $01FC protocol with:

Upgrade protocol 0 = 01 FC (S3C8+) DSM 7800 (PB v3.10)
00 00 01 08 61 0A 08 A6 62 00 EB 0D E6 62 01 18
03 97 10 63 09 61 E4 02 78 AF
End


Paul

[Ellen]

I've got a 7800 but don't currently have the extender loaded. If you tell me what instruction to change for non-extended remote, I'll give it a test some time today.

[pgk]

Removed protocol for unextended remote since it won't work.

Paul

[pgk]

I've edited both the above protocols since I noticed a discrepancy.