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[Tbone03045]

Rob - One key bose macros work flawlessly every time. If I add TV commands before the bose commands, still works fine. When I add in a DVD/VCR command, things start getting unreliable.

Also, I do recall one test I did earlier where adding a delay before calling the DEV_AUD in the macro, it definitely did make the macro more reliable, although still far from 100%.

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[Tbone03045]

I've posted my latest IR file over at Yahoo (diagnostics) in case anyone would like to check it out, it's called '2116 DKP MACRO TESTING 2.txt', I tried to link here to the URL there but failed.....

Thx,
Tbone

[The Robman]

[Tbone03045]

That's exactly what I did, Rob. Musta missed that line in your readme topic. Next time I'll get it right. Sorry about that!! While we're OT, how exactly do you do the quote thing where it puts the quote in a box and sticks the name of the quoted poster above it? I'm assuming it is related to the 'quote' button on the 'post a reply' page? I looked in the faq and the quidelines but didn't see this mentioned.

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[The Robman]

[Tbone03045]

Well, by rearranging my macros like I described a couple of replies back, and adding a delay before calling the Dev_Aud (the bose), I am now getting about a 90% recognition by the bose in the macros, guess this is the best I can expect from this setup, unless anyone has any further inputs.

Thanks for the assistance.

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[Tbone03045]

[The Robman]

Manually adding a delay in the macro itself is fine. I was referring to changing the protocol exec to automatically put a delay at the beginning of every signal.
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[Tbone03045]

Still plugging away at this....

I've got two questions at this point. The first has to do with the Readme doc for the 2116x2 extender. There are 3 pages worth of info on how to use the DEV_ commands in conjunction with the SET_xxx_KEYS commands, and then at the very end of that section, it says "While a DEV_ command is active, it applies to all keys. Any assignments made by the SET_xxx_KEYS commands are ignored." Is this a misprint or am I missing something here???

Question number two is more directly related to my bose problems. Turns out that it is not only a macro problem, it is also happening with commands from the keyboard. If I switch ONLY between my TV device and the bose, it works great, all day long. As soon as I hit either the VCR or DVD device button, and then go back to the Audio button (where the bose lives), it has a really hard time switching back over to the bose device. I can post my device selection macros, if it might help....

I'm gonna try uninstalling the extender tomorrow to see if that makes a difference, also going to set up my 8810 with a similar configuration and see what the results are there.....

Any more advice is more than welcome at this point.......

Thx again,
Tbone

[johnsfine]

[Tbone03045]

Many thanks to ToddF for sending me in the right direction with his topic on 'Bizarre problem with RC5 protocol', this is EXACTLY what has been causing all of my problems with controlling my Bose! (My DVD and VCR are both RC5 devices...) I haven't got all of the bugs completely worked out yet but I'm at least halfway there, will finish it up this weekend probably.

Thanks Todd!

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[Tbone03045]

I'm back, still trying to understand this....

Seeing as how it would appear that the bose protocol does not utilize the toggle bit in any way (from an admittedly uneducated look at the protocol builder spreadsheet of this protocol), then can someone explain to me why changing my VCR macro from:

DEV_AUD;SET_VOL_KEYS;DEV_VCR;Guide;phantom2;SET_LCD

to:

DEV_AUD;SET_VOL_KEYS;DEV_VCR;Guide;Enter;phantom2;SET_LCD

(Where 'Enter' is a do-nothing command to the VCR)

Makes my bose respond 100% of the time (after pushing the VCR button) versus almost 0% response with the previous VCR macro????

In case it matters:

'Guide' sets the player in VCR mode (it is a DVD/VCR Philips combo unit)
'VCR' protocol is RC5 device 5
'phantom 2' just sets the rest of the remote keys to the VCR device
Remote is a 2116 running the V2 extender

No flames for dragging this on and on please, I'm just trying to understand this toggle bit stuff (if that is really what is 'fixing' my macros...)

Thx again,
Tbone

[The Robman]

If the Bose and RC-5 protocols both have toggle bits, they are using the same counter to generate the toggle state. So the additional VCR command in the second macro changes the state of the "universal" toggle, which means the first Bose command to follow the steps in the macro would have the toggle bit in a different state in each of these macros.

This would tend to imply that the Bose DOES care about the toggle bit state.
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[johnsfine]

I think we need to see the file saved from IR.exe containing all these macros, KeyMoves, device upgrades etc.

I don't want to write a long justification for disagreeing with what Rob just said. I really don't want to write a bunch of questions trying to clarify everything I don't understand about what Tbone said.

It's so much easier to just open the file in IR.exe, poke around a little and spot something wrong.

[Tbone03045]

Well, I deleted the files for the 'loaner' TV I had, but the IR file with my Advent TV hardly works at all (as far ae macros goes), so maybe you can spot what's wrong in that one. Hopefully this link works, it is here

Thx,
Tbone