JP1 Remotes

The Robman · Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:24 pm Post subject:

My goal was to establish a starting point and version number and to try and bring the multiplying RDFs back to where they belong. I know that I've totally lost track of where all the various versions are.

Anyway, I just made you a moderator in the jp1-yahoo group, so you have the ability to replace the rdf zip file if you like.

I don't have a problem with including the maps and images in the same zip.
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Nils_Ekberg · Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:40 pm Post subject:

Nils_Ekberg · Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:51 pm Post subject:

jamesgammel · Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:43 pm Post subject:

Faster downloads, and reduction of duplicity is also part of the goals. Several of us have shown that an IR download can be reduced to IR.exe, and really jst a few other pretty small files. I haven't seen where inserting IR.exe, and the other related files "breaks" RM or IR.

Since maps very often get changed along with rdf's for RM they are essentially integral. Of course, the Images themselves are RM specific, and at some point Nils should be done with them, save a new model being added. I would think that the maps should be getting to a similar stable point.

What I don't know is if the images and maps can be contained in a sub-folder within the rdf folder. If so, and I'm guessing Greg will have to adjust the coding of RM to account for doing that, and possibly with less strictness to "versionating". IR should simply just ignore maps, images, etc. since they aren't "rdf extension files. Some testing should be done to confirm this.

If someone isn't using RM, but prefers KM for whatever reasons they may have, they do have the option to simply not extract the images and maps, or delete them if they do extract them. Or simply ignore that they are there, providing IR does as well.

If images can reach some stable point not requiring so many updates or upgrades, save a new model, then maybe images and maps can be it's own zip.

Everyone regardless of how they choose to make upgrades has to have IR. There's no requirement that they make upgrades. For some, maybe all they want is a way of preserving their configurations, installing extenders or special protocols, or an easier way than manually for doing keymoves and making macros. IR does require rdfs. So this person would only need to download the rdf file, and download IR and extract to the same folder, maybe renaming it "IR".
KM is a standalone, just requiring Excel. RM (Now) isn't a standalone. It requires downloading a specific Java program, and wioll now also require rdf's, which he may already have from getting IR and RDFs to use IR, as well as the Imaages and Maps.

Maybe the best solution is Tolls will contain IR (versionated), KM (versionated), RDF's (Versionated), and Images and maps (also versionated). Any change made in any, no matter how small or seemingly insignificant should be accompanied by a version change. A user should know right away from the version whether or not he needs to update. ALL updates need to be announced as well, and quote prominantly. Perhaps this site needs a bulletin board where the current version is posted, and should be something a user doesn't have to enter to see, but almost smack him in the face when he logs in. Of course, all the moderators should have the ability to change the version number. Rob and/or Mark would have to know if something like this could be set up.

<two cents off>

Jim

cdhixson · Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 48 Location: Charlotte, NC USA

What about rdf files that are not currently included in the IR distribution. The one I know of is for the RS 15-1994 Extender 5. This rdf has never been included in the IR package. I have kept my copy up to date with the changes needed for RM. Should we include these into the standard IR and rdf packages?

Nils_Ekberg · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:16 am Post subject:

gfb107 · Expert Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Posts: 3411 Location: Cary, NC

cdhixson · Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 48 Location: Charlotte, NC USA

Nils,

We need to be careful about what you upload to the JP1 files area. Mark Pauker has not released a new official version of IR that can handle the generic button names. The ImageMap line won't break the current version of IR so that can be included. It would be nice to have the same rdf files for IR and RM, but we're not there just yet.

Chris

Nils_Ekberg · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:01 am Post subject:

gfb107 · Expert Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Posts: 3411 Location: Cary, NC

gfb107 · Expert Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Posts: 3411 Location: Cary, NC

Nils_Ekberg · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:36 am Post subject:

The Robman · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:42 am Post subject: