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bgc99
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 40
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject: Connect cable to remote with computer on or off? |
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Hi,
I'm waiting on a JP1 cable that I ordered and thought I'd ask this. Does it matter if the cable is connected to or disconnected from the remote while the computer is running or does that require a shutdown?
Thanks,
BGC |
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johnsfine Site Admin
Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Posts: 4766 Location: Bedford, MA |
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 5:58 am Post subject: |
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It doesn't require any such precautions. Printer ports are designed to be connected and disconnected with power on anyway and the JP1 cable has resistors limiting the current flow in case it is connected wrong. |
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hhyatt
Joined: 24 Sep 2003 Posts: 19 Location: Kingsport, TN |
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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I had always heard NOT to change LPT connections with power on. I have an AB switch that I have printer and JP1 interface connected to. Based on past instructions, I always power down before changing from one to the other. I know that USB can be hot-switched, but I thought that LPT could not. Furthermore, the source that I got this from x years in the past said that hot-switching LPT could damage the computer.
What have other heard, or better still can you point me to a definitive resource that says that hot-switching LPT (parallel/printer) ports is allowed? _________________ HGH |
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Filebug JP1 Vendor
Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 74 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA |
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't flipping the switch on your A/B box the same as manually unplugging one parallel device and plugging in another?
I agree I have always heard never hotswap anything from your LPT port and have heard the same with the PS2 ports. Of course I've never powered down and have never had or heard of anyone having a problem from not powering down. _________________ -Tom |
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zaphod7501
Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Posts: 533 Location: Peoria Illinois |
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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As an electronic tech I think your biggest worry would be static electric discharge damaging the PC (and this would be the same possibility even if the PC was turned off). Mechanical A/B switches (as opposed to electronic) generate a lot of electrical NOISE , personally I would be more likely to power down the PC with one of them than than if I was going to swap cables. There is basically nothing in the JP1 interface (unlike a printer) so I think the most important thing would be to make sure the printer was powered down before disconnecting it. _________________ Just call me Zaphod (or Steve) --- I never should have started using numbers in a screen name but I just can't stop now. |
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classicsat
Joined: 20 Feb 2004 Posts: 279
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Doesn't matter, I connect/disconnect JP1 and aother bit-banged LPT port programmers with no ill effect to the PC or device. |
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hhyatt
Joined: 24 Sep 2003 Posts: 19 Location: Kingsport, TN |
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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So it seems that there is little, if any, concern for hot-swapping/hot-switching LPT ports. What was the concern in the past -- I have seen this as a standard of practice in published literature.
The comment about static surges would seem to have the best foundation -- is this because the LPT to standard printer is a relatively high current application while JP1 is elecronically isolated and uses virturally no current ??
This is no big issue, I just want to know what the basis of the "old rules" was. There was so much to learn that a person didn't have time to understand why -- in most cases we took a lot of things on faith. _________________ HGH |
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Mark Pierson Expert
Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Posts: 3017 Location: Connecticut, USA |
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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hhyatt wrote: | I just want to know what the basis of the "old rules" was. |
The old rules basically admonished you to not hot-swap anything. In the early PC days, they and their peripherals weren't nearly as tolerant as they are today. These days, I don't think the PC/port is at risk, but the newer bi-directional printers are finicky (more specifically, their drivers are).
I really don't think there's much, if any, risk with a JP1 cable. Until I went with a USB version, I was hot-swapping JP1 and my older Epson ink jet constantly. When my wife had an HP printer on her desktop, it didn't like being unplugged and then reconnected, but I'm sure it was a driver issue since it continuously polled the port (it hated the JP1 cable ). _________________ Mark |
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