JP1 Remotes

mhe4 · Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 21

I'm new to the JP1 world. I built my cable a few months ago and have played a little with it, but not much. I have read the primers and have contacted OFA to get the "codes" they suggest for my device.

My remote is a URC-8800. It has learning to 6 specific buttons only, but IR.EXE does not recognize it as a "learning remote". I have a Pronto also, so learing to a .CCF and then converting it to something I can input into keymap-master is a possibility. I do have the original remote also.

So...OFAsupport sent me the following suggestion:

jon_armstrong · Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:39 pm Post subject:

Usually hybrid devices use some commands from each device (receiver and DVD). Denon frequently uses more than one device code per device. Receivers generally use two: one for the amplifier functions and one for the tuner functions. IIRC, some Denon DVD's use up to three different device codes. Every different device code has 256 commands so that is looking at a lot of possibilities just to avoid learning ~30 keys.

If you learn all those commands in your Pronto it will eliminate much guesswork. We have a tool written by John Fine that can decode a Pronto ccf file, and it will tell you everything you need to know.

I looked at a variety of IR libraries including Denon's US and UK websites and didn't find anything for your model.
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The Robman · Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:02 pm Post subject:

Did you check to see if there's already an upgrade for this device in either the DVD or HT Systems folders? If there isn't, then I would recommend that you learn all the buttons to your Pronto, create a CCF file and then, if you don't want to decode it yourself, post the file here and (maybe) someone will decode it for you.

You should also check the Pronto file section to see if there's already a CCF file for it.
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mhe4 · Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 21

I did look for an upgrade and there are none that work. I tried a DVD and an amplifier upgrade for Denon and neither seemed to work. I didn't find anything in the Pronto file section of remotecentral either.

I guess I'll learn the commands to my Pronto and then try to convert the CCF.

Thanks for the leads/advice.

P.S. If I had a newer OFA remote that included the codes listed in my first post, is there a way to "extract" them in such a way as to be able to then import them as an upgrade into my current remote?

jon_armstrong · Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:05 am Post subject:

The Robman · Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:36 am Post subject:

mhe4 · Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 21

Rob,

You are correct in the interpretation of my question about another OFA remote. Thank you. I can do some soldering, but I'm not really comfortable scraching traces and trying to solder to them. I did read the instructions about the mod you refer to.

Jon,

I will go ahead and learn the commands into my Pronto and try to convert it myself. If I fail, I'll post the file to the board and ask for help. I don't mind trying it myself.

I really do appreciate all the help I have received thus far.
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mhe4 · Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 21

Jon,

I learned my commands; made a CCF; decoded it...now I'm confused by the .TXT file. I opened it in Excel and I see lots of information that I don't understand.

Is there a reference I have overlooked on what do to with this to get it into Keymap-Master and/or Ir.exe?

I'd like to learn how to do this, although I'm not above giving up and handing it over to you if that would be easier than teaching me.

I placed the .CCF and .TXT (from DecodeCCF) in a zip file in the diagnostic area: Denon ADV-1000.ZIP

Thanks again.
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The Robman · Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:52 pm Post subject:

I've just written a help doc that describes how to use DecodeCCF, iyou can download it from here:

http://www.hifi-remote.com/files/help/DecodeCCF-help.zip

In the meantime, I'd like to take a look at your CCF file, so could you load it into the Diagnosis Area so I can download it.
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mhe4 · Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 21

(see edited prior post)

I just uploaded it...

Denon ADV-1000 in the diagnostic area.

Thanks.
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jon_armstrong · Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:20 pm Post subject:

Mark here are the commands sorted in device/obc order. I annotated which panels they were under. Many commands were under multiple panels T is Tuner, D is DVD, C is CDR.

The tuner numerals looked like bad learns. If the numerals are different than the ones in the DVD panel, then please re-learn them. Also +10 and Call in the Tuner Panel were bad learns and need to be re-learned.

(Denon):02:221 EFC=215 Right Arrow Panel - All
(Denon):02:222 EFC=217 Status Panel - All
(Denon):02:224 EFC=250 Enter Panel - All
(Denon):02:225 EFC=246 On Panel - All
(Denon):02:226 EFC=248 Off Panel - All
(Denon):02:230 EFC=249 Surround Panel - All
(Denon):02:234 EFC=120 T.Tone Panel - All
(Denon):02:240 EFC=058 Mute Panel - All
(Denon):02:241 EFC=054 Vol + Panel - All
(Denon):02:242 EFC=056 Vol - Panel - All
(Denon):08:129 EFC=006 0 Panel - D
(Denon):08:130 EFC=008 1 Panel - D
(Denon):08:131 EFC=004 2 Panel - D
(Denon):08:132 EFC=011 3 Panel - D
(Denon):08:133 EFC=007 4 Panel - D
(Denon):08:134 EFC=009 5 Panel - D
(Denon):08:135 EFC=005 6 Panel - D
(Denon):08:136 EFC=138 7 Panel - D
(Denon):08:137 EFC=134 8 Panel - D
(Denon):08:138 EFC=136 9 Panel - D
(Denon):08:140 EFC=139 10 Panel - D
(Denon):08:141 EFC=135 Sub T Panel - D
(Denon):08:142 EFC=137 Audio Panel - D
(Denon):08:143 EFC=133 Angle Panel - D
(Denon):08:145 EFC=070 Menu Panel - D
(Denon):08:146 EFC=072 Return Panel - D
(Denon):08:148 EFC=075 Repeat Panel - D
(Denon):08:152 EFC=202 Track Forwards Panel - D
(Denon):08:153 EFC=198 Track Back Panel - D
(Denon):08:154 EFC=200 Scan Forward Panel - D
(Denon):08:155 EFC=196 Scan Back Panel - D
(Denon):08:157 EFC=199 Pause Panel - D
(Denon):08:160 EFC=234 ‡/Mode Panel - D
(Denon):08:161 EFC=230 †/Band Panel - D
(Denon):08:162 EFC=232 Prog/Dirct Panel - D
(Denon):08:163 EFC=228 Clear Panel - D
(Denon):08:167 EFC=229 Display Panel - D
(Denon):08:170 EFC=104 Random Panel - D
(Denon):08:172 EFC=107 Up Arrow Panel - D
(Denon):08:173 EFC=103 Down Arrow Panel - D
(Denon):08:174 EFC=105 Right Arrow Panel - D
(Denon):08:175 EFC=101 Left Arrow Panel - D
(Denon):08:183 EFC=037 › Panel - D
(Denon):08:186 EFC=168 Repeat AB Panel - D
(Denon):08:187 EFC=164 Enter Panel - D
(Denon):08:188 EFC=171 Setup Panel - D
(Denon):08:189 EFC=167 Top M Panel - D
(Denon):08:190 EFC=169 Call Panel - D
(Denon):08:206 EFC=153 ‡/Mode Panel - C
(Denon):08:207 EFC=149 Pause Panel - C
(Denon):08:209 EFC=086 †/Band Panel - C
(Denon):08:212 EFC=091 Track Back Panel - C
(Denon):08:213 EFC=087 Track Forwards Panel - C
(Denon):08:214 EFC=089 Scan Back Panel - C
(Denon):08:215 EFC=085 Scan Forward Panel - C
(Denon):08:234 EFC=120 SDB/Tone Panel - All
(Denon):12:127 EFC=189 Left Arrow Panel - All
(Denon):12:160 EFC=234 Setup Panel - All
(Denon):12:161 EFC=230 Surr.Para Panel - All
(Denon):12:163 EFC=228 Up Arrow Panel - All
(Denon):12:164 EFC=235 Down Arrow Panel - All
(Denon):12:172 EFC=107 Function Panel - All
(Denon):12:175 EFC=101 Ch.Sel Panel - All
(Denon):12:182 EFC=041 Input Mode Panel - All
(Denon):12:204 EFC=155 › Panel - T
(Denon):12:205 EFC=151 Pause Panel - T
(Denon):12:206 EFC=153 Top M Panel - T
(Denon):12:210 EFC=088 Sub T Panel - T
(Denon):12:211 EFC=084 Angle Panel - T
(Denon):12:212 EFC=091 Audio Panel - T
(Denon):12:213 EFC=087 Track Back Panel - T
(Denon):12:214 EFC=089 Track Forwards Panel - T
(Denon):12:215 EFC=085 †/Band Panel - T
(Denon):12:216 EFC=218 ‡/Mode Panel - T
(Denon):12:217 EFC=214 Scan Forward Panel - T
(Denon):12:218 EFC=216 Scan Back Panel - T
(Denon):12:251 EFC=180 Sleep Panel - All
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mhe4 · Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 21

Wow. Thank you. Which protocol would I use in keymap-master? Should I use "Denon Combo (Official)" or "Denon Combo"? I don't know where to look to find what is different about the two protocols.
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The Robman · Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:07 pm Post subject:

mhe4 · Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Posts: 21

Thanks for your help. Sorry about the netiquete blunder. Didn't even think of it.

What is the difference between the "official" and the "hacked" versions of the Denon Combo protocols?

When I get the upgrade working, I presume I should post it to the Yahoo group for others to use, correct?
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jon_armstrong · Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:41 pm Post subject:

It's probably a question of memory. Since the "Denon Combo (Official)" apparently isn't in the built in library in the 8800 then "Denon Combo" is smaller and probably easier to use.

If you had a remote with the "Denon Combo (Official)" in the built in library then you wouldn't have to do a Protocol upgrade and that would save some bytes. Rob wrote the Denon Combo the other is the official version from UEIC.

Since I had the spreadsheet already, I just pasted in the data in the functions tab and built a [url=http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jp1/files/3.%20Device%20Codes/Audio/ADV-1000\Denon_ADV-1000-KM.txt]starter upgrade[/url]. I assigned some logical keys. You need to select what functions you need on the buttons that you want in the buttons tab.

BTW, there is a 50 Byte limit in device upgrades for the 8800. I think there is a workaround for that limitation in the form of an extender, but my 8800 knowledge is thin.
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