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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:51 am    Post subject: Help with BIN file for Slingbox for Ebaco Digital Receiver Reply with quote

I have a slingbox Sling Media 350 and the following digital cable receiver: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VD55CWC

I am trying to get a BIN file to upload to my Slingbox, but cannot find one anywhere. Therefore, I am trying to create the BIN file. I am very technical and have already decoded the codes from the remote with an Arduino and IR receiver. My Plan B is to control a microcontroller over the internet to replay the codes if need be, but I would rather figure out a way to get these codes into a file format my Slingbox understands and use that.

Is there a way to generate these BIN files? I cannot find the format for them or software to create them. This is the first time I have tried to do this so I am unfamiliar with the process and format.

Please let me know. Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with BIN file for Slingbox for Ebaco Digital Receiv Reply with quote

eely22 wrote:

I am very technical and have already decoded the codes from the remote with an Arduino and IR receiver. . . .
d use that.

Is there a way to generate these BIN files? I cannot find the format for them or software to create them. This is the first time I have tried to do this so I am unfamiliar with the process and format.

Please let me know. Thanks


I'm jumping in here, because I don't think Alan is going to have an answer for you, but I think YOU already have the answer.

By looking at the unit, I am guessing that it is probably decoded to a Nec1 Device 0 type of signal.

If we know what the decoded signals are, we can easily create a bin with the JP1 RemoteMaster software.

If you go on to create your own, we ask that you contribute it to the forum's file area so the next person has a fighting chance.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you decide to build your own bin fiel, you need either an usb ir widget or a jp1 remote with jp1 cable.
Then you need to install remotemaster on your pc.

If alan or someone else can find the remote for your device on the logitech remote database, then you can wait for him to do it for you.

If you don't want to do it yourself and alan cannot find it in the database, then you can get a logitech harmony remote 650 to upload the learned remote to alan's account and he can help to create the bin file.


The above is what I read on the forum.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He already has a way to capture the IR signls with his Arduino and IR receiver, so he has no need for a widget or JP1 remote and cable. Assuming that there is a way to decode the output from the Arduino, that is.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barf's IRScruitinizer has an option for the Arduino, so I'm guessing that either it produces a file format, or IRScrutinizer communicates in some way.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did u guess NEC1 dev 0? Is it just because it's an unknown brand or do you know something?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

Yes, the Arduino and IR Receiver can output the values for each button. In the end, it is just a timed on/off pulse of a 38kHz IR signal, so I have all the timing values. Not sure how those get translated into codes and then into the BIN file.

The software mentioned, RemoteMaster, that may be the answer I was looking for. That is what people use to create BIN files?

The values from the Arduino are pretty self-explanatory, this is the output that comes from the IRLib and a really simple receiver:

Decoded Unknown(0): Value:0 (0 bits)
Raw samples(68): Gap:5628
Head: m8800 s4500
0:m450 s1800 1:m450 s650 2:m450 s650 3:m450 s700
4:m450 s650 5:m450 s650 6:m450 s650 7:m450 s700
8:m400 s700 9:m450 s1750 10:m450 s1750 11:m500 s1750
12:m450 s1750 13:m450 s1750 14:m500 s1750 15:m450 s1750

16:m500 s1750 17:m450 s1750 18:m500 s1750 19:m450 s650
20:m450 s1750 21:m450 s700 22:m450 s650 23:m450 s650
24:m500 s600 25:m500 s650 26:m450 s600 27:m500 s1750
28:m500 s600 29:m500 s1750 30:m500 s1700 31:m500 s1700

32:m500
Extent=67100
Mark min:400 max:500
Space min:600 max:1800

It is just on/off timing values, which is what the remote is actually outputting. I will try and dig to see how this can be input into the RemoteMaster software.

If anyone has done this before, I would love any tips or tricks!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I was close, this is a Nec1 Device 1 OBC/Function 23

Barf wrote some software that will decode the Arduino directly into JP1 terms.

You want to download IRScrutinizer from this page to read/decode the signals.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=category&cat_id=40

Then you need to download RemoteMaster to create a bin from the output of irscrutinizer.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=category&cat_id=81
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Robman wrote:
How did u guess NEC1 dev 0? Is it just because it's an unknown brand or do you know something?


I have tried four different brands of HDMI ATSC tuners. They all came with a remote that had HORRIBLE number arrangements like this one. They were all Nec1 device 0, the standard no-name protocol so it wasn't much of a stretch to think this one would be too. Instead it has the other standard no-name protocol Nec1 device 1. I'll bet the menus have that really creepy learing smiley face too. Laughing

I have found them all to be very weak tuners, and they don't have a long shelf life. I finally gave up and went back to those wonderful Echostar SD boxes that have the guide and plug into the AV jacks. I would really prefer to use the HDMI connector, because the picture is clearer and there are more and more HDMI ports and fewer and fewer AVs everytime I buy a TV. If I could get one that could pick up all the channels that the Echostar picked up I'd be a very happy camper. I never spent 80 on any of them, maybe that was the problem.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vickyg2003 wrote:
Okay, I was close, this is a Nec1 Device 1 OBC/Function 23

Barf wrote some software that will decode the Arduino directly into JP1 terms.

You want to download IRScrutinizer from this page to read/decode the signals.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=category&cat_id=40

Then you need to download RemoteMaster to create a bin from the output of irscrutinizer.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/forums/dload.php?action=category&cat_id=81


Well, the IRScrutinizer doesn't seem to work with the Arduino and the sketch provided. I am not sure why, but it just doesn't appear to capture anything.

I just don't have a lot of time to spend on this, so I will turn to plan B, which is to use a Particle Photon to just transmit the raw codes. I have done this before so I know it will work, and it does the job.

Thanks again everyone for the help.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vicky, did u cut & paste that Arduino code into IRScrutinizer?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assumed that under the Capture HW tab Arduino would capture the signal. You can capture from the widget under the widget tab, although it is not intuitive for me.

I couldn't find a way to import from the text either, but the format of the sample is rather simple though, each timing pair is numbered, and the timings are nec like, and it followed the Dev, ~Dev, Cmd, ~Cmd for a Nec1.

Decoded Unknown(0): Value:0 (0 bits)
Raw samples(68): Gap:5628
Head: m8800 s4500
0:m450 s1800
1:m450 s650
2:m450 s650
3:m450 s700
4:m450 s650
5:m450 s650
6:m450 s650
7:m450 s700
8:m400 s700
9:m450 s1750
10:m450 s1750
11:m500 s1750
12:m450 s1750
13:m450 s1750
14:m500 s1750
15:m450 s1750
16:m500 s1750
17:m450 s1750
18:m500 s1750
19:m450 s650
20:m450 s1750
21:m450 s700
22:m450 s650
23:m450 s650
24:m500 s600
25:m500 s650
26:m450 s600
27:m500 s1750
28:m500 s600
29:m500 s1750
30:m500 s1700
31:m500 s1700
32:m500
Extent=67100
Mark min:400 max:500
Space min:600 max:1800
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